From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 22052 invoked from network); 19 May 2023 23:27:13 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 19 May 2023 23:27:13 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55454106A; Sat, 20 May 2023 09:27:07 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pl1-x62b.google.com (mail-pl1-x62b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::62b]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5454741067 for ; Sat, 20 May 2023 09:26:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pl1-x62b.google.com with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-1ae40dcdc18so28348505ad.2 for ; Fri, 19 May 2023 16:26:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1684538818; x=1687130818; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=3fxbl9gllA53AKnXvyzPJzuXKNhNNK2B8rtNjqRkWfk=; b=l5EtEsh0XFHn8PYA9vPuID3HPUO1ukkRoNpqJHlkZt+GFuGCytV40ZkcL15LDE9CKa kz5/zgHAOLeuTPAlBDdqMy80bD3BdDQTBseH1ztWPyTNVw1XbvXAO+hidDtTMlvvw9zx RCXLq6tpTPd5kkPNfBMZ+OQndXdU/RiYUfATC6uGCxYMR9DuLQvYU4qp783Tw3ihwqbt +Hvg+CF/tr1/bGdnxICwSwOqXRDiQ1ggZc8lxFsLyUQMyI8uvt/5M/RXDZVr+XRLpYmZ BkKK/ibcoWCK8j5kuUoY9hJeM6RxA5JwufUQTQlC+nB+4JOhtXIx/SSouT+tFpBxNpyU Nqiw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1684538818; x=1687130818; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=3fxbl9gllA53AKnXvyzPJzuXKNhNNK2B8rtNjqRkWfk=; b=jmhAbDw9OraUuCPlsW1+K0iRC8dZjRsDSLVeuMUlsBb4z0ahVcgmquU8myBF3shfWk MqwN7nD97zXfO79UitvVLn0shk5rfSwhcMUFzcAJby6uLaz/YpGCQonoPDi2oF3vNyP2 6JvZxRIiMei3pMJpsTnx6YDvQ/6ZyARwLFFnQvZRbF9iIDmc2i/npM3Bexy+MP2cPUqm L995UZmt9qPsVEf0b4bo2cPW3lRNCaZ+m8bdvGzQb+A+vDkOI3c4Sc3tVp7aq003H8fn ucW3nig+jSSZgb9IJk4FAQ7wrZB/s2uspCITvqpFTVtvG3q11kY5dP59sgMjfgT1IVMy rMdg== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDxKL3JQYXFU1DbGEmkuwdpu5CRNHcW/qm7g8AieFU8ilVx7reGm tPIMe5kptucaBVDL8J2uFf77KmhizUW6UKRS0ck= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ4xMuk/PUaqFZK1K/wR3AitFRfuPBwkTKoPpVFDHNe2D3F4FfOttKeXU/B65LyN37FgY7nq6ODXtz5cRsA8dbk= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:bf06:b0:1ae:2e0f:1cf6 with SMTP id bi6-20020a170902bf0600b001ae2e0f1cf6mr4138773plb.36.1684538818404; Fri, 19 May 2023 16:26:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: KenUnix Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 19:26:41 -0400 Message-ID: To: segaloco Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e1a77d05fc1441b6" Message-ID-Hash: CXBNWVEBI4PI2IPPPYQUQQT2L2FBHBFZ X-Message-ID-Hash: CXBNWVEBI4PI2IPPPYQUQQT2L2FBHBFZ X-MailFrom: ken.unix.guy@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: UNIX TUHS Group X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Documentation for Sys-V basic interpreter List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000e1a77d05fc1441b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to all for the input! Ken On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 4:19=E2=80=AFPM segaloco = wrote: > The earliest documentation I can spot is the bs(1) man page dated > November, 1979 in the CB-UNIX 2.3 Manual (although the page itself is > tagged CB-UNIX 2.1.) > > This appears to be the same lineage as what we see in the commercial PWB > releases, however, the earliest backstop I have on that is June, 1980 wit= h > 3.0. PWB 1.0 contains no such page, and unfortunately the situation right > around 1979 is still a bit fuzzy re: PWB 2.0 and UNIX/TS. That said, the > preface to the CB-UNIX 2.3 manual (which is also a 2.1 page from 1979) pa= ys > no credit to the UNIX/TS 1.1 nor PWB 2.0 manuals the way the PWB 3.0 > preface does, so perhaps bs(1) started in CB? > > Looking forward, this utility persists up til SVR2, but is gone as of the > SVR3 globe-with-UNIX-lines manual series. Curiously, it was also omitted > from the 3B20 PWB 4.1 manual, but the 5.0 and subsequent System V 1 and 2 > manuals don't have a hardware-exclusivity masthead mark, so this was like= ly > made portable/ported to 3B20 sometime around '81. In any case, none of th= e > man pages in any of these manuals indicate any memoranda or other papers = in > the SEE ALSO. Doesn't mean one doesn't exist, but points to the likelihoo= d > that the manpage is really all you get documentation-wise. Even the BTL > versions don't mention any papers. > > In any case, that's what I could turn up, there is a bs(1) manpage in the > following versions: > > - 1979 - CB-UNIX 2.1 > - 1980 - PWB 3.0/System III > - 1981 - PWB 4.x (Non 3B20) > - 1981 - CB-UNIX 2.3 (unmodified from 2.1) > - 1982 - PWB 5.0 > - 1983 - System V > - 1984 - System V Release 2 > > Hope that helps. All of these save the 4.x version should be in various > places around. I don't remember seeing anything outrageously different > between 3.0 and 5.0, so it very well may be that the 4.x manpage could be > easily synthesized with a diff, but I don't have a physical page to prove > anything. > > - Matt G. > ------- Original Message ------- > On Friday, May 19th, 2023 at 8:06 AM, KenUnix > wrote: > > Hi. > > Was any documentation ever done for the basic interpreter > that was on System-V? > > Things like allowed keywords or special keywords. > > Thanks > Ken > > > -- > WWL =F0=9F=93=9A Okey Dokey OK Boss > > > > --=20 End of line JOB TERMINATED Okey Dokey OK Boss --000000000000e1a77d05fc1441b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks to all for the input!

Ken

On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 4:19=E2=80=AFPM segal= oco <segaloco@protonmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
<= div>The earliest documentation I can spot is the bs(1) man page dated Novem= ber, 1979 in the CB-UNIX 2.3 Manual (although the page itself is tagged CB-= UNIX 2.1.)


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