From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 12323 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2023 01:22:55 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 12 Dec 2023 01:22:55 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C44E43D56; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 11:22:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-oi1-x22b.google.com (mail-oi1-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::22b]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2633843D55 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 11:22:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-oi1-x22b.google.com with SMTP id 5614622812f47-3b844357f7cso3927918b6e.1 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2023 17:22:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1702344162; x=1702948962; darn=tuhs.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=cl0WcCqFbnNFwfd5dZOudjUf+7/9ZWpTAvRSD/WUNFI=; b=AyTgeZPgd4+7ZoyZTXwojJkIfDjcyl2EYPgmp4Krm9TA73XX7Bwhz9jEmRPS3RHiIS ABbV9bBrj++18MlRlspmsL5dP4d/lMUipRf4FA7qewQjh4gMDyjT6aFKKjAJW8uIqrQh hGaD/2IpheNjSX9myTq0l7PDkWQRGD7z9A2MO7MjWJuXbXqOpUSWoGhMBS6/lTvJUt6D 1nbbefyb0ks7iyH7KEEhKMMCarHxi1xdpCHoQs9VgnQ603S6qbA6CqOTRfeWEV+0Bnj6 xqY4lBcHmfZPlXXTrOmmp1sgvlrD/xbbgMlIU93r0Xkdr2S0SyuK7jCjuLN3KxI+h04o GXIw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1702344162; x=1702948962; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=cl0WcCqFbnNFwfd5dZOudjUf+7/9ZWpTAvRSD/WUNFI=; b=CF+WHo0HLiZ41ZYhYiVI7rdMvwJHspoyKZO5KHOh6QjWnCax8dPwnXo1SdoPyBiNPd P9m9h6mH1M+3qAV7IEFFa1/zo0yypx9YY2J3TpYhZbRQvudifY0afqgqbwvg0QqcPABD Z7HX+hCki2ejf43+ymYnNv/G4Go6icflVMKUf+OjR9EwIR0uXG00jVUFn1j4kzUDEaOK JLK2mlQS9c7IQhncdFzeT+Q2t47/BjRRV6Z7KPGDm7IyubL1JeNPIdwMP/xHAI1wAowV Ow6zGBdHvGOgGdysio72dM+aOU2hUv4506xBtnqHtR7EV4Su6Rm6gt98G8wZqmwPYTFI NUxQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyHvkYNHnB1VyppE9r9NdCrt11bAjdh33pGRnqtqV+x1SnTM7Qz QWb7eos4AyNQepghrZddESIsx+pyGgSAGniAqUQ49yx8 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHyoTG39vmzBni/cJPBvGRJt0X5sxDRnYWfDg6jOzMlBNe9UDjazToK6KvYqHptKnUyznEw/zoVTCs5FJg/8jk= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:3846:b0:3ba:c12:3e89 with SMTP id ej6-20020a056808384600b003ba0c123e89mr3288062oib.106.1702344162334; Mon, 11 Dec 2023 17:22:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: KenUnix Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 20:22:24 -0500 Message-ID: To: segaloco Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000014da90060c45e39a" Message-ID-Hash: FD2UXPGK5CPJKGF2W7V4X4NRUCAEIDKM X-Message-ID-Hash: FD2UXPGK5CPJKGF2W7V4X4NRUCAEIDKM X-MailFrom: ken.unix.guy@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Sad news: Bell Labs leaving Murray Hill. List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --00000000000014da90060c45e39a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A company I used to work for was vacating a building. I asked, has anyone checked under the raised floor tiles? The answer was no. Well I did and found a lot of history down there. From component parts from long forgotten systems to water cooling lines for long gone IBM heavy metal and a ground window. -Ken On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 7:59=E2=80=AFPM segaloco via TUHS w= rote: > While my gut says not likely, I'm holding out hope that Nokia is keen on > ensuring someone does a historical sweep of the premises before all is sa= id > and done. You never know what might be sitting forgotten in a closet > somewhere...a lot of history has gone down in those illustrious halls, > formative moments in our quest for better technology for which a modern > equivalent fails to come to mind. > > For me it's not just about innovations though, but a culture of curiosity= , > openness, and what feels like genuine interest in bettering the human > condition that seeps from so much of the work accomplished by MH and othe= r > Bell Labs sites over the decades. A video I watched recently about the > breakup of the Bell System echoed what I see in countless recollections o= f > Bell Labs alumni, a sense that their work was contributing to something > greater for everyone, not just the bottom line of the telephone company. > Hopefully the lessons Bell Labs has taught many an engineer, scientist, a= nd > businessperson over the years outlive these facilities by orders of > magnitude, but in either case, sad to see the physical artifacts of such > important times passing too into the sands of time. > > - Matt G. > On Monday, December 11th, 2023 at 1:21 PM, ron minnich > wrote: > > April 16, 2014, from the Unix room: > > "I'm about to turn this terminal off, > the last one in the Unix Room. It's the > same 400MHz Pentium II I've had since > before left." > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:46=E2=80=AFAM Marty McGowan, MIT Club of Princ= eton < > martymcg@fastmail.com> wrote: > >> Thus following the Holmdel facility into the Halls of Oblivion. >> >> my current location, just E of the NJ Tpke, now splits the distance >> between them. >> >> I was in HO in the late '80s, at MH in the mid '90s, there to divide the >> corporate directory. >> >> Anecdote on the latter: The "company to be named" - i.e. Lucent had to >> shell out Hundreds of 1000s to Yet Another Garage Tronics in Silicon Val= ley >> for rights to the name -- the internet was young enough that the Name >> Search committee didn't have "Dot Com" in it's dictionary as yet. >> >> =3D*+[]* Marty McGowan +1 908 230-3739 >> VP of Membership, MIT Club of Princeton >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 15:37, John Floren via TUHS wrote: >> >> I can't believe they'd give up the building, it's a beautiful structure. >> Maybe they'll use it for other groups. >> >> >> john >> >> >> > --=20 End of line JOB TERMINATED --00000000000014da90060c45e39a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A company I used to work for was vacating a building.= I asked, has anyone checked under the raised floor tiles?

The answer was no. Well I did and found a lot of history down ther= e. From component parts from long forgotten
systems to water cool= ing lines for long gone IBM heavy metal and a ground window.
=
-Ken


On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 7:59=E2=80= =AFPM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org<= /a>> wrote:
<= div>While my gut says not likely, I'm holding out hope that Nokia is ke= en on ensuring someone does a historical sweep of the premises before all i= s said and done.=C2=A0 You never know what might be sitting forgotten in a = closet somewhere...a lot of history has gone down in those illustrious hall= s, formative moments in our quest for better technology for which a modern = equivalent fails to come to mind.

For me it's = not just about innovations though, but a culture of curiosity, openness, an= d what feels like genuine interest in bettering the human condition that se= eps from so much of the work accomplished by MH and other Bell Labs sites o= ver the decades.=C2=A0 A video I watched recently about the breakup of the = Bell System echoed what I see in countless recollections of Bell Labs alumn= i, a sense that their work was contributing to something greater for everyo= ne, not just the bottom line of the telephone company.=C2=A0 Hopefully the = lessons Bell Labs has taught many an engineer, scientist, and businessperso= n over the years outlive these facilities by orders of magnitude, but in ei= ther case, sad to see the physical artifacts of such important times passin= g too into the sands of time.

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- Matt G.
On Monday, December 11th, 2023 at 1:21 PM, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>= wrote:

April 16, 2014, from the Unix room:

"I'm about to turn this terminal off,
the last o= ne in the Unix Room. It's the
same 400MHz Pentium II I've had si= nce
before <someone> left."

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:46=E2= =80=AFAM Marty McGowan, MIT Club of Princeton <mart= ymcg@fastmail.com> wrote:
Thus following the Holmdel facility= into the Halls of Oblivion.

my current locati= on, just E of the NJ Tpke, now splits the distance between them.
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I was in HO in the late '80s, at MH in the mid '= 90s, there to divide the corporate directory.

Anecdote on the latter: The "company to be named" - i.e. Lucen= t had to shell out Hundreds of 1000s to Yet Another Garage Tronics in Silic= on Valley for rights to the name -- the internet was young enough that the = Name Search committee didn't have "Dot Com" in it's dict= ionary as yet.

=3D*+[]* Marty McGowan +1 908 230-3739
VP of Membership, MIT C= lub of Princeton
=






On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at = 15:37, John Floren via TUHS wrote:
I can't believe the= y'd give up the building, it's a beautiful structure. Maybe they= 9;ll use it for other groups.


j= ohn





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