From: "Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)" <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
To: John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org>
Cc: TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: I can't drive 55: "GOTO considered harmful" 55th anniversary
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 11:40:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJbEFzgaSuqitw5XOkCc9bwwWr-CVHScT1-H-eP1gPTX9uYpYw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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On Mon, Mar 13, 2023, 04:26 John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 7:40 AM Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> It is certainly a shame that modern compiler writers have become
>> essentially hostile to programmers in their pursuit of ever more aggressive
>> optimizations based on rigid readings of the standard, common sense be
>> damned.
>>
>
> Not at all. It is clear that mainstream C and C++ compilers optimize for
> the features most important to mainstream C and C++ programmers, which are:
>
> 1) Execution speed.
>
> 2) Execution speed.
>
> 3) I lied; there is no 3.
>
> If those are not your priorities, use a non-mainstream compiler or a
> different programming language.
>
Or you can ask GCC to respect your view of the language with things like
-fno-strict-aliasing, -fwrapv, and -fno-trapv.
>
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Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-10 11:37 Noel Chiappa
2023-03-10 11:51 ` [TUHS] Conditions, AKA exceptions. (Was: I can't drive 55: "GOTO considered harmful" 55th anniversary) Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-10 15:54 ` [TUHS] Re: I can't drive 55: "GOTO considered harmful" 55th anniversary Dan Cross
2023-03-12 7:39 ` Anthony Martin
2023-03-12 11:40 ` Dan Cross
2023-03-12 16:40 ` Paul Winalski
2023-03-13 3:25 ` John Cowan
2023-03-13 10:40 ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) [this message]
2023-03-13 12:19 ` Dan Cross
2023-03-13 12:43 ` [TUHS] [TUHS]: C dialects (was: I can't drive 55: "GOTO considered harmful" 55th anniversary) Alejandro Colomar
2023-03-13 12:46 ` [TUHS] " Dan Cross
2023-03-13 16:00 ` Paul Winalski
2023-03-13 19:00 ` Clem Cole
2023-03-13 19:09 ` Larry McVoy
2023-03-13 19:17 ` Steve Nickolas
2023-03-13 20:26 ` Dan Cross
2023-03-13 22:25 ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2023-03-13 19:24 ` [TUHS] Re: [TUHS]: C dialects Luther Johnson
2023-03-13 19:38 ` Luther Johnson
2023-03-14 19:48 ` John Cowan
2023-03-14 19:56 ` Joseph Holsten
2023-03-14 20:01 ` Luther Johnson
2023-03-13 20:48 ` [TUHS] Re: [TUHS]: C dialects (was: I can't drive 55: "GOTO considered harmful" 55th anniversary) Paul Winalski
2023-03-13 20:56 ` Bakul Shah
2023-03-14 1:06 ` Larry McVoy
2023-03-13 21:00 ` Paul Winalski
2023-03-13 21:07 ` Bakul Shah
2023-03-13 21:14 ` Dan Cross
2023-03-13 22:15 ` Dave Horsfall
2023-03-13 22:47 ` Dave Horsfall
2023-03-14 0:23 ` Dan Cross
2023-03-14 0:21 ` Dan Cross
2023-03-14 13:52 ` Chet Ramey
2023-03-14 1:27 ` Bakul Shah
2023-03-13 21:28 ` Paul Winalski
2023-03-14 10:04 ` [TUHS] C dialects Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-14 20:02 ` [TUHS] " John Cowan
2023-03-14 21:34 ` Thomas Paulsen
2023-03-14 0:38 ` [TUHS] Re: [TUHS]: C dialects (was: I can't drive 55: "GOTO considered harmful" 55th anniversary) John Cowan
2023-03-14 2:49 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-03-14 3:06 ` G. Branden Robinson
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-03-10 15:37 [TUHS] Re: I can't drive 55: "GOTO considered harmful" 55th anniversary Noel Chiappa
2023-03-10 15:46 ` Larry McVoy
2023-03-10 16:04 ` Dan Cross
2023-03-10 18:55 ` Ron Natalie
2023-03-10 19:04 ` Dan Cross
2023-03-10 19:35 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-03-10 11:51 Noel Chiappa
2023-03-10 14:16 ` Ronald Natalie
2023-03-10 14:39 ` John Cowan
2023-03-10 16:30 ` Phil Budne
2023-03-10 17:50 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-03-10 17:57 ` Paul Winalski
2023-03-10 18:12 ` Lawrence Stewart
2023-03-10 17:28 ` Clem Cole
2023-03-10 17:54 ` Paul Winalski
2023-03-09 23:01 [TUHS] " Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-03-09 23:18 ` [TUHS] " segaloco via TUHS
2023-03-09 23:21 ` Warner Losh
2023-03-09 23:31 ` Luther Johnson
2023-03-09 23:44 ` josh
2023-03-09 23:54 ` Warner Losh
2023-03-10 0:54 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-03-10 1:08 ` Warner Losh
2023-03-10 10:08 ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-10 11:37 ` arnold
2023-03-10 11:56 ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-10 11:59 ` arnold
2023-03-10 12:11 ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-10 6:15 ` Dave Horsfall
2023-03-10 16:55 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-03-10 17:02 ` Bakul Shah
2023-03-12 20:47 ` Dave Horsfall
2023-03-12 21:50 ` Warner Losh
2023-03-12 22:27 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-03-10 1:31 ` Rich Morin
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