From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, MISSING_HEADERS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id a12a915f for ; Thu, 30 May 2019 14:57:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3FA359B849; Fri, 31 May 2019 00:57:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84CF9B7FB; Fri, 31 May 2019 00:57:33 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="jUBoIhog"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id BE6069B7FB; Fri, 31 May 2019 00:57:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lf1-f49.google.com (mail-lf1-f49.google.com [209.85.167.49]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 085149B6B2 for ; Fri, 31 May 2019 00:57:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lf1-f49.google.com with SMTP id q26so5291403lfc.3 for ; Thu, 30 May 2019 07:57:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:cc; bh=0wOeLD4GwYLL8cSJjJC8yfS1zo1EJN5YpPtFs1tZLVs=; b=jUBoIhog+IythPYRFed8N6uEzSR04kw5aLilBl2UAp1v4sG4bi724Eexb+bJHCVujB cQH+v+HO/N8y6rpjo+QMBgk67DIR60ZDOMhknv2+f7Gyuvt8mRTRXbq0nzS19KELtKLJ 40VH8Q7U+bqrKjcCUeNpLpsRFPNI4ePINbBTJ3KNrompsGRPWizbzdop5qSt5xIgEU8t 7Qx+2FWHMi7GxbeC4QyiK1K0KKOM4JleTFdFwMAi1Ue6GJOjrFlTIdUyYv1JsrIitO8G fFgbsFGVFbAR/dG7yu+jkn6dt2ipcgjb4mfrXSEh0SiBwycSdFV3uLWMgyrYFUxDSKBb et2Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:cc; bh=0wOeLD4GwYLL8cSJjJC8yfS1zo1EJN5YpPtFs1tZLVs=; b=Qm1Eh0s7HacfqILJ/zJQioe+osU2RvB3Fch0F7a3WgNrue7wIw04sWfnGnmLk8La1s 4mHlcjxTD/PtO8yKk6d8DI3TlAHEKdJSFhlDtMWar8cos74f19pBM/0prBlR0XdIdQQB YZ5pU9InEqt/+EZ/kT445XmeDcKZsEYqalnjAWAOHZiQmhCXFVIfsRc45Ln57G1j9D4m Fh/tglf4Bz8Xx2V1eM/PFazRCptQ2Fmh/PsSEHQN1JKo8mN/2GAnqbGufNUYxq9KQWGq ZpwbUgERkZoP1GST/kIya75h4BRujtz15ahAQO4x8B/pJLwtBqWNm0GhHz3HMuTofDaK Ol4A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXeguoP94Fyp/wJS8DnVwky/X/7ENMR9EXCfQLBDPquGzp0Pm4E n1q3JsDwewcSzUIAwVPBZN9BV15mzJ+WcoKHxvGFTA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqytOQL6wvVryJDbfmUhsPb4o2fqLVupdK0wqLe8kvdfdiGzo6J89YVmj40nRk0PYWprsmcV5twFi4ThfddBWpU= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:4565:: with SMTP id k5mr2363614lfm.170.1559228250322; Thu, 30 May 2019 07:57:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <975B93B6-AD7C-41B5-A14D-2DE4FEFAD3A6@kdbarto.org> <20190530143414.GF2751@mit.edu> In-Reply-To: From: Jim Geist Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 10:57:18 -0400 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000fbfdd8058a1c1d57" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Quotas - did anyone ever use them? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000fbfdd8058a1c1d57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I have an account on a school system that uses them. On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 10:49 AM John P. Linderman wrote: > We used them in an AT&T Labs research environment. The intent was less to > prevent users from selfishly grabbing (then semi-precious) disk space but > to prevent accidents from adversely affecting the user community at large. > If you *knew* you were going to need honking amounts of disk, the > sysadmins would raise the quota (probably on a partition dedicated to such > activities). > > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 10:40 AM Theodore Ts'o wrote: > >> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 06:49:05AM -0700, David wrote: >> > I think it was BSD 4.1 that added quotas to the disk system, and I >> > was just wondering if anyone ever used them, in academia or >> > industry. As a user and an admin I never used this and, while I >> > thought it was interesting, just figured that the users would sort >> > it out amongst themselves. Which they mostly did. >> > >> > So, anyone ever use this feature? >> >> Back when MIT Project Athena was using Vax/750's as time sharing >> machines (before the advent of the MicroVax II workstations and AFS), >> students were assigned to a Vax 750, and were given a quota of I think >> a megabyte, at least initially. It could be increased by applying to >> the user accounts office. Given that there were roughly 4,000 >> undergraduates sharing 5 or 6 Vax/750's, it was somewhat understandable... >> >> - Ted >> > --000000000000fbfdd8058a1c1d57 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have an account on a school system that uses them.

On= Thu, May 30, 2019 at 10:49 AM John P. Linderman <jpl.jpl@gmail.com> wrote:
We used them in an AT&T Labs research env= ironment. The intent was less to prevent users from selfishly grabbing (the= n semi-precious) disk space but to prevent accidents from adversely affecti= ng the user community at large. If you knew you were going to need h= onking amounts of disk, the sysadmins would raise the quota (probably on a = partition dedicated to such activities).

On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 10:40= AM Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 06:49:05AM -0700, David wrote:
> I think it was BSD 4.1 that added quotas to the disk system, and I
> was just wondering if anyone ever used them, in academia or
> industry. As a user and an admin I never used this and, while I
> thought it was interesting, just figured that the users would sort
> it out amongst themselves. Which they mostly did.
>
> So, anyone ever use this feature?

Back when MIT Project Athena was using Vax/750's as time sharing
machines (before the advent of the MicroVax II workstations and AFS),
students were assigned to a Vax 750, and were given a quota of I think
a megabyte, at least initially.=C2=A0 It could be increased by applying to<= br> the user accounts office.=C2=A0 Given that there were roughly 4,000
undergraduates sharing 5 or 6 Vax/750's, it was somewhat understandable= ...

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 - Ted
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