From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, PLING_QUERY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 00fa0333 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 17:14:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 947859B6B8; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 03:14:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E195D946B9; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 03:13:53 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="B/Isq8WM"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id DD964946B9; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 03:13:50 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wr1-f52.google.com (mail-wr1-f52.google.com [209.85.221.52]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C7B593DBB; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 03:13:50 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wr1-f52.google.com with SMTP id n14so12723340wrw.9; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 10:13:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=+bn2zqRXbWf8o8xRAJCqZOs1haHAksuTMeU+/Yfm3rc=; b=B/Isq8WM0InMO9GmjA2PqCnmDlZo/XBR+iHfDj4bq7fCGlUdZKto7qXjCWxG6M95vi 2q4jy0g8L8US90R573tk3z9VhC4xVzYIwTCmpgMX6YbY0rUCTXZ2LuIIntO4vG5IoGXH olHURo0vLTiYNUDENjrNgGXqvQKvPI8+oAaQv8Hy1Tm+YRcLufh8Nry4vOITHYSjOrtG xpgpfwxgGCiGi58S/tEx03JyRR56hkUPyrUx8FPd0Y5qwHy54oAkKgfJRzdEaBfZ+VMu 8m8n6v8pu52FLGBYsr73Df09q/Bj7Js3Sxm/LSc/wj3ZVvsixrfnmZO9ngNhYZTEVG6n ncXQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=+bn2zqRXbWf8o8xRAJCqZOs1haHAksuTMeU+/Yfm3rc=; b=mQJcHJzdGH7ibBBjq73T7O794eeHzD8qwbnZgqtSdnNtOmLrFxyX82HedaI26hJyCN V7SorZ5kUwVcICuwOCD2Rm+XG/v28zE2caVlIGuEEyah/QkuqnZn3XorllHEGS9+E09S ofMi6eXLojFjE2QeeFHDYI90ATSfVqOjoyTS9sLw4Mcv9U/Cc2lakbXuwN6KY1wROtj5 Rvjbriv6mTDbu02twsCoMHtNTC30sZsWpxertT6vQ0japzaiqtxu0RU09eOqv5hwsm/G zfR4sdUwVfM+l9rDODJEzy1J7VEStM8XFX7nEmwQA0CL/ZVNf4h0lJS81PLSGdMrNtlr x7vQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW9Hkd9057xBo3tn4OyBdfWasunk5qzLcDWwNjriFFrwKTawswm Bz2fcxwwsVGuAHFolgww8lxvK05ZyPujV6hF+G3O0/N+ X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyoRR9pu16yM2sWcIsZr7KjiD/f4OZwVDY8xyylmCjbeADRMWnkxqEAWZRyvCIrDaoTOJ192gGbH3ieUE03AGk= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:1283:: with SMTP id f3mr13219173wrx.370.1570814028929; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 10:13:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191010205546.GA29154@minnie.tuhs.org> In-Reply-To: <20191010205546.GA29154@minnie.tuhs.org> From: Jim Geist Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 13:13:37 -0400 Message-ID: To: Warren Toomey Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000033de830594a5a4dc" Subject: Re: [TUHS] What was your "Aha, Unix!" moment? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000033de830594a5a4dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 4:56 PM Warren Toomey wrote: > All, we had another dozen TUHS suscribers to the list overnight. Welcome. > A reminder that we're here to discuss Unix Heritage, so I'll nudge you > if the conversation goes a bit off-topic. > > So I'll kick off another thread. What was your "ahah" moment when you > first saw that Unix was special, especially compared to the systems you'd > previously used? > > Mine was: Oh, I can: > + write a simple script > + to edit a file on the fly > + with no temporary files (a la pipes) > + AND I can change the file suffix and the system won't stop me! > > I was using TOPS-20 beforehand. > > Cheers, Warren > As an undergrad in the 80's. Before college most of my experience had been on various flavors of BASIC, with the one exception being a summer spent at a science camp where I did Pascal on an Apple ][ and other programming assignments on VMS. My college had a big schism between the computer services department that serviced the whole school -- they ran an IBM 4341 with VM/SP -- and the actual computer science department that ran UNIX on a VAX-11/780. Undergrad classes were mostly on the mainframe and grad students used the VAX. I learned C on the mainframe but was able to talk my way into a UNIX account and started seeing how much more elegant things were. --00000000000033de830594a5a4dc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 4:56 PM Warre= n Toomey <wkt@tuhs.org> wrote:
All, we had anothe= r dozen TUHS suscribers to the list overnight. Welcome.
A reminder that we're here to discuss Unix Heritage, so I'll nudge = you
if the conversation goes a bit off-topic.

So I'll kick off another thread. What was your "ahah" moment = when you
first saw that Unix was special, especially compared to the systems you'= ;d
previously used?

Mine was: Oh, I can:
=C2=A0 + write a simple script
=C2=A0 + to edit a file on the fly
=C2=A0 + with no temporary files (a la pipes)
=C2=A0 + AND I can change the file suffix and the system won't stop me!=

I was using TOPS-20 beforehand.

Cheers, Warren

As an undergrad in the 8= 0's. Before college most of my experience had been on various flavors o= f BASIC, with the one exception being a summer spent at a science camp wher= e I did Pascal on an Apple ][ and other programming assignments on VMS.

My college had a big schism between the computer serv= ices department that serviced the whole school -- they ran an IBM 4341 with= VM/SP -- and the actual computer science department that ran UNIX on a VAX= -11/780. Undergrad classes were mostly on the mainframe and grad students u= sed the VAX. I learned C on the mainframe but was able to talk my way into = a UNIX account and started seeing how much more elegant things were.
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