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From: Jim Geist <velocityboy@gmail.com>
To: Tom Lyon <pugs@ieee.org>
Cc: "tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org" <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] SUN (Stanford University Network) was PC Unix
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2021 10:23:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJohCKLQN_Nk6oEWa9pZtf71Gi4GMMyPM4xtUvze8D_e82=k=w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAOGWQizfa9zVtbSjAC3-FAqhQoMHNMAuNtwPCN3NP1FqUT4uw@mail.gmail.com>

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Fun trivia fact, at least until the mid 90's, the Stanford University
Bookstore still had SPARCstations as the machine they sold to students.

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 10:10 AM Tom Lyon <pugs@ieee.org> wrote:

> Prior to Sun, Andy had a company called VLSI Technology, Inc. which
> licensed SUN designs to 5-10 companies, including Forward Technology and
> CoData, IIRC.  The SUN IPR effectively belonged to Andy, but I don't know
> what kind of legal arrangement he had with Stanford.   But the design was
> not generally public, and relied on CAD tools only extant on the Stanford
> PDP-10.  Cisco did start with the SUN-1 processor, though whether they got
> it from Andy or direct from Stanford is not known to me.  When Cisco
> started (1984), the Sun-1 was long dead already at Sun.
>
> After both Sun and Cisco, Stanford got serious about holding on to IPR.
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 10:12 PM Jason Stevens <
> jsteve@superglobalmegacorp.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there any solid info on the Stanford SUN boards?  I just know the SUN-1
>> was based around them, but they aren't the same thing?  And apparently
>> cisco
>> used them as well but 'borrowed' someone's RTOS design as the basis for
>> IOS?
>> There was some lawsuit and Stanford got cisco network gear for years for
>> free but they couldn't take stock for some reason?
>>
>> I see more and more of these CP/M SBC's on ebay/online and it seems odd
>> that
>> there is no 'DIY' SUN boards... Or were they not all that open, hence why
>> they kind of disappeared?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jon Steinhart
>> To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
>> Sent: 4/8/21 7:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: [TUHS] PC Unix
>>
>> Larry McVoy writes:
>> > On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 12:18:04AM +0200, Thomas Paulsen wrote:
>> > > >From: John Gilmore <gnu@toad.com>
>> > > >Sun was making 68000-based systems in 1981, before the IBM PC was
>> created.
>> > >
>> > > Sun was founded on February 24, 1982. The Sun-1 was launched in May
>> 1982.
>> > >
>> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Microsystems
>> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun-1
>> >
>> > John may be sort of right, I bet avb was building 68k machines at
>> > Stanford before SUN was founded.  Sun stood for Stanford University
>> > Network I believe.
>> >
>> > --lm
>>
>> Larry is correct.  I remember visiting a friend of mind, Gary Newman,
>> who was working at Lucasfilm in '81.  He showed me a bunch of stuff
>> that they were doing on Stanford University Network boards.
>>
>> Full disclosure, it was Gary and Paul Rubinfeld who ended up at DEC
>> and I believe was the architect for the microVax who told me about
>> the explorer scout post at BTL which is how I met Heinz.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>
>
> --
> - Tom
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-09 14:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-09  5:31 Jason Stevens
2021-04-09  6:13 ` Jon Steinhart
2021-04-09  6:34   ` Rich Morin
2021-04-09 15:08     ` Clem Cole
2021-04-09  7:22 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2021-04-09  9:29   ` Lars Brinkhoff
2021-04-09 17:02   ` Al Kossow
2021-04-09 18:37     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2021-04-09 10:12 ` emanuel stiebler
2021-04-09 11:13   ` U'll Be King of the Stars
2021-04-09 17:22     ` Rob Gowin
2021-04-09 20:16       ` joe mcguckin
2021-04-10  2:22     ` Dave Horsfall
2021-04-09 14:08 ` Tom Lyon
2021-04-09 14:23   ` Jim Geist [this message]
2021-04-09 15:11   ` Clem Cole
2021-04-09 20:02     ` Earl Baugh
2021-04-09 20:08       ` Al Kossow
2021-04-09 20:46         ` Clem Cole
2021-04-10  1:30         ` Earl Baugh
2021-04-09 14:41 Noel Chiappa
2021-04-09 15:18 ` Clem Cole
2021-04-09 15:34 Paul Ruizendaal via TUHS
2021-04-09 17:01 ` Dan Cross
2021-04-09 17:20   ` Lawrence Stewart
2021-04-09 18:32     ` Jon Steinhart
2021-04-09 22:28       ` Warner Losh
2021-04-10  3:16 ` Dave Horsfall
2021-04-10 12:06   ` David Arnold
2021-04-13 21:57     ` Dave Horsfall
2021-04-13 22:30       ` Bakul Shah
2021-04-15  5:01   ` Robert Brockway
2021-04-16  1:17     ` Brad Spencer
2021-04-10  2:41 Jason Stevens

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