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From: Tom Perrine <tom.perrine+tuhs@gmail.com>
To: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: On the uniqueness of DMR's C compiler
Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 10:49:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJq=PCWR4zmqan=1m20CLDSvxu5G2Wk6pcpNTGeJnOQUDiOqJA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fb33c2d0-bd7f-4730-9b4d-1313fd16dff1@gmail.com>

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Hi Jon (and others),

I was part of the KSOS (later KSOS-11 and KSOS-32) team at LOGICON, which
picked up a follow-on contract to use KSOS-11 in a true multi-level-secure
production environment. Our target was SYSTEM_LOW as TOP SECRET.

Yes, we used that compiler for all the KSOS kernel and all the trusted
user-space code.

KSOS-11 only ran on PDP-11/70, and it did use split I&D.

I have access to the KSOS-11 source code, and have been trying to rebuild
that OS, BUT I haven't been able to find that Modula compiler.

KSOS-11 was a very small kernel, but there was a set of libraries that
presented a UNIX system call interface, so it could run some PWB userspace
tools, if they were re-compiled.

I'm using the term KSOS-11, as there was a follow-on project (KSOS-32) that
ported the original PDP KSOS to 11/780. I wrote a completely new (simpler)
scheduler, the bootstrap and memory management layer for that one.

And, for "reasons", the entire KSOS project at Logicon was shut down just a
week or so after the first user login to KSOS-32.

KSOS-11 itself and some multi-level applications did ship to DoD customers,
and it ran MLS applications for the Navy and USAFE.

--tep

ps. Jon was kind enough to remind me that we had corresponded about this in
the past -and- to remind me to send to the list, and not just him :-)


On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 9:08 AM Jon Forrest <nobozo@gmail.com> wrote:

> There was also a Modula2 compiler for the PDP-11 from a university in the
> UK,
> propably York. It was used to some degree at Ford Aerospace for the
> KSOS secure Unix project. I think it required separate I&D.
>
> Jon
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-08 17:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-07 20:59 [TUHS] " Paul Ruizendaal
2024-05-07 22:07 ` [TUHS] " Rob Pike
2024-05-08  9:35   ` Paul Ruizendaal
2024-05-08 13:12     ` Rob Pike
2024-05-08 15:51     ` Clem Cole
2024-05-08 16:07       ` Jon Forrest
2024-05-08 17:49         ` Tom Perrine [this message]
2024-05-08 17:05       ` Adam Sampson
2024-05-08 17:45       ` Al Kossow
2024-05-08 18:12         ` Clem Cole
2024-05-08 18:12           ` Clem Cole
2024-05-09  1:27           ` Lawrence Stewart
2024-05-31 12:00       ` Paul Ruizendaal
2024-05-31 12:21         ` Peter Yardley
2024-05-08 11:09 ` Michael Kjörling
2024-05-09 20:40 ` Paul Ruizendaal via TUHS
2024-05-09 20:57   ` Al Kossow
2024-05-08 18:29 Douglas McIlroy
2024-05-10 17:28 ` Paul Winalski
2024-05-11  9:16   ` Ralph Corderoy
2024-05-11 13:42   ` G. Branden Robinson
     [not found] <171519201646.4052234.694570138790187562@minnie.tuhs.org>
2024-05-09  3:39 ` Paul McJones
2024-05-09  3:46   ` Warner Losh
     [not found] <171535904627.4052234.5321502833323676423@minnie.tuhs.org>
2024-05-10 18:55 ` Paul McJones

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