From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 17657 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2021 16:01:03 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 26 Jan 2021 16:01:03 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 0787A9C7CC; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 02:00:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D029C65D; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 02:00:32 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="LLM4Fizh"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A069A9C65D; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 02:00:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-f41.google.com (mail-vs1-f41.google.com [209.85.217.41]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 143209C5FD for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 02:00:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-f41.google.com with SMTP id f22so9255111vsk.11 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 08:00:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=W6q/HziqSIgCdmvTllGsdT3Gp+V16qLH6o7pSoKmSvI=; b=LLM4FizhMn0Estnzg7i/rWWuhtUINIFvtLPXRh9H8r3hLslTr1DPDWG1/6+qRMJoNm ktg+mfyar7ckh+GGli3QOHtUrtSmGqfdccdKeCysTmucMJ3RXUMod8X1ZQUaigwBVogl dgr2QzSvf9V1Nb45OYU/YewejT8hnd7ba6Napn38Ldib++/ILWNF2oYr9xtVq62Rr0E2 5Q22IXWSuDPCg7xY7Ysww95EYQ1+FRsh7T46iajtuY1J2PGlDIcYGCfx5nTY5Y/6o2Sz MJhLo0FnxXFzaqW2vo87ub0NfAfvowqiPMRFqTpvK1PsfZwFd76h1ngrZrsAkAnX9zZz UzMg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=W6q/HziqSIgCdmvTllGsdT3Gp+V16qLH6o7pSoKmSvI=; b=h/RMuKpmfIu8CPnXccSZQ8a+FKYSwTEsGdUlpSu4qPpLHKZOxUIRW0s4uGH+IMszcm 8bb9XCECdyiYRcuhyJalCDFX5AtRsJcKfNSZOm4JCdPQsmJP7jctr8uSWJx7hfL2v1Gg 5p+ptvL8QWgFnQ+BAWrgnd2o54RIHYlO5qdhmzld+clDvOCtI7lnJG8dNRWqAtiWAAA1 VTMUDZBKElchLNS3eNHY0ay0mCNvU8ro7gVCtJdKL6p7wRyxm/P5/7OCX6bw9a5380Hg LjZZpfopuCUOX3jkwYGuumdCLpRp+ngs8P7+K3YFZ3QObB6TwPH8Smt3Z8KIjZyf/GRV lB1Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530jZWNwvLX6Grk/ORQBLo73ibkX+/V+eYgJNmNKgCDechA8Vpjv R41/9luLc/wFKcnFkyYHeURNOFc5WhX9wEwJNh/byGjL X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxmzmQldNT/z07b6qRgZkA+032EDkn/NpmiYzJdhw7BhKq56gr0GtPMGCRor6QEPz68Yr8547Xe87bhtK//ZLo= X-Received: by 2002:a67:1341:: with SMTP id 62mr5142870vst.49.1611676827027; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 08:00:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Niklas Karlsson Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 17:00:15 +0100 Message-ID: To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c48bcc05b9cfc04c" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Favorite unix design principles? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000c48bcc05b9cfc04c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Den tis 26 jan. 2021 kl 16:24 skrev Clem Cole : > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 5:23 AM Tyler Adams wrote= : > >> Looking at the 1978 list, the last one really stands out: >> >> "Use tools in preference to unskilled help to lighten a programming task= " >> -- The concept of unskilled help for a programming task...doesn't really >> exist in 2020. The only special case is doing unskilled labor yourself. >> What unskilled tasks did people used to do back in the day? >> >> Tyler >> > I've often wondered if this is the source of the infamous putdown: When > you operate in such or such manner,* "you could/should be replaced with a > shell script."* > The version I've heard is even "... a very small shell script". Niklas > =E1=90=A7 > --000000000000c48bcc05b9cfc04c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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Den tis 26 jan. 2021 kl 16:24 skrev C= lem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>:


On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 5:23 AM Tyler Adams <coppero1237@gmail.com> wrote:
Looking at the 1978 list, the last one really stands out:

"Use tools in preference to unskilled help to lighten a programming = task" -- The concept of unskilled help for a programming task...doesn&= #39;t really exist in 2020. The only special case is doing unskilled labor = yourself. What unskilled tasks did people used to do back in the day?

Tyler
= I've often wondered if this is the source of th= e infamous putdown: When you operate in such= or such manner, "you could/sho= uld be replaced with a shell script."=C2=A0

The version I've heard is even "= ;... a very small shell script".

Niklas
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