From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 32490 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2023 01:51:57 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 1 Aug 2023 01:51:57 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B1F40F96; Tue, 1 Aug 2023 11:51:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pj1-x102f.google.com (mail-pj1-x102f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::102f]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1ABE40F83 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2023 11:51:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pj1-x102f.google.com with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-26825239890so3597954a91.0 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2023 18:51:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1690854701; x=1691459501; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=xPSanS90UN0oMepgmwEuezUbiT1ZPXVf1F5984dlzVc=; b=lE9rg8zMjVrB37BJZSReJoTCZu46Mq8TMKKo7xtPAOp2Zll1BaIxiwLiRLfdUMgmss MSI5Ii2P5tGhdYrrQyktu+xblmcJ7GO5ZGoPpmh9zACS3h11M/p9RCyJnSKn5jXW2czG ZjvsGX0acxvL+veiSmE1JUE6KH29/EyiCbLXSLRb6ZWTARjhsREfGJKhtQ+j8uMInevb L8CYpnx5ZUV0i7BaRyvbiAZYxIQlcfpEOTRK9lSMuf+N9eY2ZxOhF8DKOooX7fgl+8Bm JI0OHdkGsQOuAEdu2o0Z6PNUNy5C2RtmNuSqN8/IPuRp1WujJeLUzJy4cgxfnU/TXVMP VgXg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1690854701; x=1691459501; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=xPSanS90UN0oMepgmwEuezUbiT1ZPXVf1F5984dlzVc=; b=le49FUr0/HpCabao+sOf2m1n2oiXNR71WUpiH0hb7rOu+HMm7JNEdb+DEdYWcD1I+1 wHW7N4K6s5vSMcvLcxrVtQpSA7UlUesKdw0NSoQa5rf07Qb46NUqAxmxP9d7ABh/+S/W ZGSIMx2SpHxgRQ+QljWxFh/uiF03+QVgm1C0theBWoykNrKQabPUfR1mRpvbJt43MJjJ NIC6aHi8ux3qMoGFhkmheFrw8lhxkgPZmoM2ZF4r3QHwMjmqoamTTjTAtEWniVDnMDra R3JZKieq/jPbjRkETOXqDZq9+ycvCo+Qr0PZxrrOw7vjVEhiF9byJv/Tuhv4cFF5mJ4m +09g== X-Gm-Message-State: ABy/qLYSUCxxWEXUjK+dLcFJpJortFC6gTSsMIiwbponQvTuAAo+Ioas 7aWjjQ1mEQE6Fh3gUi9Ml0ZEaWsilsZXkIjJ7y9maAZ9 X-Google-Smtp-Source: APBJJlEvMn6v6Wo9L/rXZ7gELG23ZkycQhQrWhHMolHApkZjYdB7io5+lhw4NrcW4cVpKgRZqgAIxYDppH2FQtZX2dE= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:fa54:b0:262:ea57:43f with SMTP id dt20-20020a17090afa5400b00262ea57043fmr11218758pjb.37.1690854699628; Mon, 31 Jul 2023 18:51:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8246.1690761540@cesium.clock.org> In-Reply-To: From: Niklas Karlsson Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 03:51:28 +0200 Message-ID: To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000bcfed90601d2c948" Message-ID-Hash: NU6DWNTMDQZP6PPV7764O4G7J75GULYH X-Message-ID-Hash: NU6DWNTMDQZP6PPV7764O4G7J75GULYH X-MailFrom: diamondwings@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Cool talk on Unix and Sendmail history, by Eric Allman List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000bcfed90601d2c948 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Den m=C3=A5n 31 juli 2023 kl 02:27 skrev Warner Losh : > > > On Sun, Jul 30, 2023, 5:59 PM Erik E. Fair wrote: > >> >> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 09:34:56 +1000 >> From: George Michaelson >> >> [...] >> >> Execute on read is just awful. But, now we have HTML to track >> "they >> read it" through URL fetch. >> >> And then the utterly disastrous: JavaScript. It should be *eliminated* >> from the WWW as the gross security violation it is. >> >> "don't run software from strangers", >> > > > Write once, run everywhere. > I've seen some cynical people render it as "write once, run away". Niklas --000000000000bcfed90601d2c948 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Den m=C3=A5n 31 juli 2023 kl 02:27 skrev Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>:


On Sun, Jul 30, 2023= , 5:59 PM Erik E. Fair <fair-tuhs@netbsd.org> wrote:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 09:34:56 +1000
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 From: George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org&= gt;

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 [...]

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Execute on read is just awful. But, now we have= HTML to track "they
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 read it" through URL fetch.

And then the utterly disastrous: JavaScript. It should be *eliminated*
from the WWW as the gross security violation it is.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "don't run software from strangers&quo= t;,


Write once, run everywhere.
=

I've seen some cynical people render i= t as "write once, run away".

Niklas
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