From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 091170e1 for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 10:13:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 289BBA1DE9; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 20:13:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B30A183B; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 20:13:42 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="key not found in DNS" (0-bit key; unprotected) header.d=kev009.com header.i=@kev009.com header.b=tlyU0yCV; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 92038A183B; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 20:13:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-it0-f52.google.com (mail-it0-f52.google.com [209.85.214.52]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 861DDA183A for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 20:13:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-it0-f52.google.com with SMTP id p4-v6so11368857itf.2 for ; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 03:13:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kev009.com; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iP0MlN3lyslT6iojGUpgjFwUFspIPoQE5j5o9Nu+LAw=; b=tlyU0yCVZt9+d5HsralQZhOSfnMoC3A+ZxIUiq97blHHY3nmMvm279XNhGtaIQu4kQ rkG1KPyM34/mHnhBoxhXGh9cVe/ppbAAbvnJniNT+5fwdI51qPjRTbLQ8McUsDumt+99 xpHDkBOPXofhF9GvcfRl6JDtNIYYeIRg2XVEU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iP0MlN3lyslT6iojGUpgjFwUFspIPoQE5j5o9Nu+LAw=; b=Ljj+TDQakl5U/5y/C2u7hAwEsmFnnfG89RnF1H/VarhdOh2rHjxTfncw6so4a416gy fWjfSt9oM+P7/ZS5D0aLSTRCqi0LdUyG+X9pIcedzPpgVpqKZqijBuondYCFzhJuPb1x fpcGAhyutfJOrrHCUWFTJ1uvt5B7q6XbPmdbAKIgvYm1B5OlkE2VYQeT+5lNCCE6xQy7 6Wt8ngN8gAFmvRG3tKt0ifQxr26450ZX6HBalmXp6DdSiGIbxkUsghQHHWqMwW9UT1cx yelUDPw1EOqKsb8sLercRGLFWt76qGdIxPICI6CDmJhUtApBsf5Y46jLuEiwicDe4OJ9 gyEg== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E2q0f+8oZMMVLw+Sfn6J056y+ubdRxrxKFVoSIDYA98ZugqYqiR BpdSDOJO8CHk1GBuSPILp/I0PjogPbuacpQe5KQWmw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpeD4d8YXZjZDY2xYe4nvo5FqjBtVI/q9DFOY6fR5PTOo95ASmQY2QY1VDbYtIZ/SMfuMLnqLkios8mxuIUB2F4= X-Received: by 2002:a24:ed4a:: with SMTP id r71-v6mr5427370ith.53.1530526418852; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 03:13:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a02:5343:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 03:13:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <927BB205-49F8-492B-8AAB-0395F36B549A@jctaylor.com> References: <1530357310.5184.for-standards-violators@oclsc.org> <20180701021724.GA99215@eureka.lemis.com> <927BB205-49F8-492B-8AAB-0395F36B549A@jctaylor.com> From: Kevin Bowling Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 03:13:38 -0700 Message-ID: To: William Corcoran Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [TUHS] ATT Hardware X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" They were also offered with the Alarm Interface Circuit card and Remote Management Package, soft off might have been required as part of those design considerations for remote management. On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 5:20 PM, William Corcoran wrote: > No! no! no! The 3b2 was one of the first supermicros to fully integrate > power management with the system. Yanking the cord would be unthinkable > mainly because it was unnecessary. The shutdown script would remove powe= r > to the the system once the system safely went down and buffers were flush= ed. > You could also depress this massive rocket switch on the side of the unit > and it would kick off the powerdown script. It is noteworthy that the 3b= 2 > power switch was stateless...allowing human and computer to turn off the > power. > > Finally, the 3b2 is probably the only system in the world with system > diagnostics so in depth that they were nearly as significant as the > operating system. It=E2=80=99s a telecommunications thing. Interestin= gly, the > color of the 3b2 was similar to a VAX Brown and White. > > > On Jul 1, 2018, at 6:24 PM, John P. Linderman wrote: > > Puns aside, anyone who didn't consider pulling the plug was probably not > someone who should be bringing the system down. > > On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 10:17 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey > wrote: >> >> On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at 7:15:07 -0400, Norman Wilson wrote: >> > Ron Natalie: >> > >> > My favorite 3B2ism was that the power switch was soft (uncommon then= , >> > not so >> > much now). I seem to recall that if the logged in user wasn't in a >> > particular group, pushing the power button was a no-op. You didn't >> > have >> > sufficient privs to operate the power. >> > >> > =3D=3D=3D=3D >> > >> > Surely you mean the current user didn't have sufficent power. >> >> Or was experiencing too much resistance? >> >> Greg >> -- >> Sent from my desktop computer. >> Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key. >> See complete headers for address and phone numbers. >> This message is digitally signed. 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