From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 12861 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2022 05:00:42 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 18 Jun 2022 05:00:42 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D1940CDE; Sat, 18 Jun 2022 15:00:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qv1-xf36.google.com (mail-qv1-xf36.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f36]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76A8240786 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2022 15:00:31 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qv1-xf36.google.com with SMTP id p31so9141413qvp.5 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 22:00:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kev009.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=X4/pc2SN0Ovpv313TINyM5QcYCsAYW8r3J5M4mHz9q0=; b=r0WoHS3Gpt4Lh0J9j9diAfUgRyJ2bYGIU5fBxqKJGK7Je3J2w+zF3n1kxHAGl8o9Fy 6j568g41F8W4kwXNdGhrQT6/yz7LSiNHiE2TPS+xrSOtNuA+Bn53nvZ5AChPpYORoWBU sfbC+aiXG6dR3g4HyPULrlr+yU6QFdJiRcmug= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=X4/pc2SN0Ovpv313TINyM5QcYCsAYW8r3J5M4mHz9q0=; b=qwp4ZvFJmdrd6xm2TBh2HNBMgZnnvqklLVJSVkY/2NMPnzMs8cXSleAxCFoU+x+2eX d/qXKRVyp3ti7JuPc+Kz6jD2paV8e3LnJva2HlQnTHEH4AJHx6WN854KCoUckrm4jwjD 1NcLKDyYE90HeZA+rR/O9rZ5RjS7KrjFz/HWKGZdvL8zPyCjbhYf5tjqlWaetCBZmiKL JuHIrRWCDEQ5yJClrZsjKPZga6jjyNg3F/Thp7T5a+LZhEuiAGJznNRrHSpVD30zYlXf Fi+tZlY53/ONfAroD1Dter55J+G9OfOquxkotYsmeQWu7efI4j7ZACGVEmwmYllk3mya rB1A== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora+9IGYzCL7857Md5qwyEe+mheRrwuVe4iK2N8kE72PuA+lrGW8X Zv+UDmRTsSLOCTA6gO8XJ5G8h+ex41+bw/zWMVvBlA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1tE0smsWur5Z3tKf2oXf+1sqQS3Fvqc1iaCtHBuBPXpTYxMR62YdPvGFi5w2ZfK9xc8I2+4ZOnPjR2eeLrYv6A= X-Received: by 2002:ad4:5b89:0:b0:46b:9e62:ea06 with SMTP id 9-20020ad45b89000000b0046b9e62ea06mr11553043qvp.66.1655528430258; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 22:00:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Kevin Bowling Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2022 22:00:19 -0700 Message-ID: To: Douglas McIlroy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000006dc905e1b1c0c6" Message-ID-Hash: YSXHCLUHFSR6CVB3HTFU5HUAZXJPBA2P X-Message-ID-Hash: YSXHCLUHFSR6CVB3HTFU5HUAZXJPBA2P X-MailFrom: kevin.bowling@kev009.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: TUHS main list X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: forgotten versions List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000006dc905e1b1c0c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 5:35 PM Douglas McIlroy < douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu> wrote: > > I can think of at least 4 things, some big, some small, where post-V7 > > Research Unix was influential > > Besides streams, file system switch, /proc, and /dev/fd. v8 had the > Blit. Though Rob's relevant patent evoked disgruntled rumblings from > MIT that window systems were old hat, the Blit pioneered multiple > windows as we know them today. On the contemporary Lisp Machine, for > example, active computation happened in only one window at a time. > > V8 also had Peter Weinberger's Remote File System. Unlike NFS, RFS > mapped UIDS, thus allowing files to be shared among computers in > different jurisdictions with different UID lists. Unfortunately, RFS > went the way of Reiser paging. > I believe RFS shipped in SVR3, at least as a package for the 3b2. > And then there was Norman Wilson, who polished the kernel and > administrative tools. All kinds of things became smaller and > cleaner--an inimitable accomplishment > > > No clue what was new in V10 > > This suggests I should put on my to-do list an update of the Research > Unix Reader's combined table of man-page contents, which covers only > v1-v9. I think it's fair to say, though, that nothing introduced in > v10 was as influential as the features mentioned above. > > Doug > --000000000000006dc905e1b1c0c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 5:35 PM Douglas McIlroy <douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu= > wrote:
> I can think of at least 4 things= , some big, some small, where post-V7
> Research Unix was influential

Besides streams, file system switch, /proc, and /dev/fd. v8 had the
Blit. Though Rob's relevant patent evoked disgruntled rumblings from MIT that window systems were old hat, the Blit pioneered multiple
windows as we know them today. On the contemporary Lisp Machine, for
example, active computation happened in only one window at a time.

V8 also had Peter Weinberger's Remote File System. Unlike NFS, RFS
mapped UIDS, thus allowing files to be shared among computers in
different jurisdictions with different UID lists. Unfortunately, RFS
went the way of Reiser paging.

I believe RFS sh= ipped in SVR3, at least as a package for the 3b2.

And then there was Norman Wilson, who polished the kernel and
administrative tools. All kinds of things became smaller and
cleaner--an inimitable accomplishment

> No clue what was new in V10

This suggests I should put on my to-do list an update of the Research
Unix Reader's combined table of man-page contents, which covers only v1-v9. I think it's fair to say, though, that nothing introduced in
v10 was as influential as the features mentioned above.

Doug
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