From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, URIBL_SBL,URIBL_SBL_A autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 03ca37f6 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 18:08:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E70409C129; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 04:08:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DDAA93D7B; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 04:08:04 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="key not found in DNS" (0-bit key; unprotected) header.d=kev009.com header.i=@kev009.com header.b="YzCTIphv"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9B9AF93D7B; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 04:08:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-io1-f41.google.com (mail-io1-f41.google.com [209.85.166.41]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CED593D24 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 04:08:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-io1-f41.google.com with SMTP id s17so23647544iol.12 for ; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 10:08:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kev009.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zUdWGfkI4BLqWCaVVjuwyED0D42DlV5JFDRW4PIoRYU=; b=YzCTIphvAvZqcUgQeZYfNf8r915t/UMPyn//h9b0JLUEeCQUPVpmBTakCd7DuqaIWg eVvnkJkV/LO3X87CKr0Md9IrwyD8iDmJ/ezODS7wqtphmefHWKgqgo/vBKMS7AfbhG0z Nhje6DpBzeDLgue23lpJ5dMA8yxxqus9GaYWw= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zUdWGfkI4BLqWCaVVjuwyED0D42DlV5JFDRW4PIoRYU=; b=Oc9Xc56GuqkeNixhnoNDKz8Ku0jQF6uYijJhycqgvQslHINLv0kQA4tvAHK6kjODsh dItlj1vKXXTxsb3sc9StpWLTF8ySrtD8b3X/aA3HG6/kNdMHyTh2QhhXeybVgY7+0f5G pcTvyHoQEK8Mti1a4zJUC7gSLt2Vx654ryYttiKT17tGum+9az3LwX66+X1bNzW4iaw/ vCLDO4PM3X0UuujVd8egokM2Aj1LPLDYAxDzNJ/+Okc0yb5Eu6rOM0qXT3xMHn+xWGsj ZxR1Rn9pZHmNv81htDGsdfwbjGZcKD8LrYzYe2mxBe6sIB9tcmOi4nCr2/hKb7ib2Fv/ 2ycA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWOQwsnEoTuxKN+3j85CuP7iLtLH40lilJx+b7PrazY10tutx5A U7VqRXFaoBudmdi+/agorMmgqnOz6KD9/SqwZv+48w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx9+6vjTRo55Mo8nX+7BJbw3uAy4Bk6/vkD41d6aoMIbjeV7dW+FVfxb2sdM5OnOvNUK/K5a13r4eWy5Smx0EY= X-Received: by 2002:a02:c508:: with SMTP id s8mr8254143jam.56.1572977282435; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 10:08:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Kevin Bowling Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 11:07:51 -0700 Message-ID: To: Clem Cole Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [TUHS] Amdahl UTS, AIX/370, AIX/ESA X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Clem, The AIX/386 stuff is readily available http://ps-2.kev009.com/aixps2/ and can run in virtualbox https://astr0baby.wordpress.com/2018/09/14/running-aix-1-3-inside-virtual-b= ox-5-2-16/ Regards, Kevin On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 10:30 AM Clem Cole wrote: > > > > On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 10:40 PM Gregg Levine wro= te: >> >> I've been trying to track down a copy of AIX/370 for >> that emulator, especially since I do run VM/370 Release 6 on it. One >> of the people in the community indicated that it was a product > > > I can verify for a fact that Locus received bug reports from all over the= world. There was a team in LA set up to handled them. True, the customers= were reported to be more academic than commercial, but there were commerci= al customers.. For instance, I was told that my current employer ran the s= imulation for then proposed/in-development 80386 on a 370-PS/2 cluster unde= r iTCF FWIW: I was under the impression they used TCF to migrate the very = long running simulations from two different processors (I don't know that f= or sure, but I have been told that by two different people, so I'm comforta= ble repeating it). > > I was also told, for an IBM customer to try to get the product was quite = difficult. IBM sales basically tried really hard to not provide it and you= had to know about it and know you to ask to get it. Charlie may know more= , but he was working on AIX/RS-6000 which as has been pointed out was a sep= arate code base. > > As for finding an old copy of AIX/370 or AIX/386 (which are the same exce= pt for specific code that cared), I wish you good luck. IBM kept the IP lo= cked up. We were firewalled at Locus and the code was only on a couple of= very special systems and access was tightly controlled. I was not on tha= t team, so I never saw their raw IP ( so I would not be contaminated as I w= as one of the TNC architects). But I was allowed to talk with Bruce and Gr= eg who were the TCF architects. We did all talk about common issues; but = Greg and Bruce stayed out the TNC IP (until after the IBM contract ended) a= nd myself and Roman stayed out of TCF. > > > Clem > >