From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,LOTS_OF_MONEY, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 03800d46 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 21:55:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 051C9948FC; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 07:55:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D5C948E3; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 07:54:01 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="key not found in DNS" (0-bit key; unprotected) header.d=kev009.com header.i=@kev009.com header.b="eaXi821F"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 31691948E3; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 07:53:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-io1-f66.google.com (mail-io1-f66.google.com [209.85.166.66]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4662948E1 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 07:53:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-io1-f66.google.com with SMTP id j5so88703961ioj.8 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:53:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kev009.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=8TBAIjJ2g+cdJvEuD66nwX9S+JnOu6L2eYwIaiEB9ls=; b=eaXi821Fmq0KsUUpkOwulEUrmAm/EPULL5APxI/w6n0t/0mF8f3g3WwsYXuk1hk5Dl Hm+Wysy2COGhGBjaFj3II1CwxsD//roGMY1IEJgkbv8sibbsX3AU/4HSzwWu2/YrDjZN K+cWA6eeNvbUWsut23PCmiQYtOSPHG7S9xxzA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=8TBAIjJ2g+cdJvEuD66nwX9S+JnOu6L2eYwIaiEB9ls=; b=XtqV0TLu5bMq1JDimT3z3/ag7COC5alB1VWs2mCAGwefCyrq0JkoQlvguZtt2Fn36D sKXcbrAtjEyZ+gZMkfCYnTsFNZ48AN8dzaGDmMcOlpWUv2IpoHEmpZt5AnXZCafin8pV 6vVTrTIkJXtrx/9E5+Ge8aRiSIPh56QZZfMMs6X33HOZn2ejm84pNd0Qt4N9Niv+s6sA pwwjm/ao7bl8rvBnq59b30Q0qsYOmuKlvb03V8P1WtUjvaH14IJheXb6cXcfhHA0Na67 3SHIPn9cKQH0h2p15LllL7erQQt1qNvH9Zj3D3tsIz4SQdv5IUfcCNmMMCMZzZ/iC8uH w8kQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVJPpM10fHdASz6H0Bu9A7XGwJwO3aeCbpXurSX0OPbbW6/AK78 v5o4xUcZDr3vOl9U/rqPSjvilqW9s63kZcmOi74L51RhJ9I= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzIotAa+3oOVnKdrJPP/sh8ApZu3BzapwrR68kYGuXG12mTYjISJ6fjWJ8dUXx25Ty5CU414lhZrWwxccb97No= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:7909:: with SMTP id i9mr47320731iop.8.1564005236921; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:53:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8235a090-c48a-4587-8974-23305233bc33@PU1APC01FT026.eop-APC01.prod.protection.outlook.com> <3CFC8159-08DD-4647-8CEF-FE8D196AB3C9@ccc.com> <610F6FCB-F24D-4788-953A-83E0E6456622@ccc.com> <017d16e0-3a7d-b3e7-29b8-8a454d78463f@e-bbes.com> <201907170810.x6H8AELx031974@freefriends.org> <20190717151101.GD16562@mcvoy.com> <40c9068b4144a3b4@orthanc.ca> In-Reply-To: <40c9068b4144a3b4@orthanc.ca> From: Kevin Bowling Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:53:45 -0700 Message-ID: To: Lyndon Nerenberg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000092e5f3058e745844" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000092e5f3058e745844 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can you share any details or photos about that 3B? Academia and cash strapped aren=E2=80=99t terms I=E2=80=99d tie together in= my generation in the US with all the loldebt and gilding. On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 6:12 PM Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > >> Sun had a '386 based system in early 90s-ish called the Road Runner. > >> I never saw it. It ran SunOS 4.x and I think was discontinued by the > >> time Solaris 2.x came along. > > >Yep, can confirm. I was a fan but the powers that were at Sun at the > >time just didn't want competition for SPARC. > > I have vague memories of the Road Runner. But I also recall, circa > 1993, Sun was trying very hard not to sell a '386 port of Solaris that > I wanted to get my hands on. > > At the time I was spinning up a brand new university campus. We > were, as all academia were, $$$ constrained. Windows was starting > to roll out, but the incoming academics wanted UNIX to run their > code on. Sun had just leaked out a 386-based release, but was > hiding it from everyone. At the front-end of the campus build, my > thoughts were to get this Intel version of SunOS running on the > Intel boxes that we knew we had to buy, anyway, because MSDOS and > Windows. > > At the '93 Interop I quickly tracked down the Sun booth and started > nailing down all the booth critters to set up a conversation about > doing a campus-wide binary license of the 386 port. Both booth > shitheads could not be bothered. They only wanted to SPARC the > booth babes across the aisle. > > Does anyone remember the name of that Sun release? I've forgotten now. > Meanwhile, we signed up for a BSDi academic source license, and deployed > UNIX on every PC that hit the campus. > > Sun did eventually show up, many months after the campus opening. With a > "million dollar" donation. It was a heap of mostly broken workstations > that they piled on the floor in the agora for a photo-op. Same gig that > AT&T tried when they dumped the 3B4000 on us in Athabasca in 1990 ;-) > > --lyndon > > --00000000000092e5f3058e745844 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Can you share any details or photos about that 3B?

Academia and cash s= trapped aren=E2=80=99t terms I=E2=80=99d tie together in my generation in t= he US with all the loldebt and gilding.

On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 6:12 PM Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca> wrote:
>> Sun h= ad a '386 based system in early 90s-ish called the Road Runner.
>> I never saw it. It ran SunOS 4.x and I think was discontinued by t= he
>> time Solaris 2.x came along.

>Yep, can confirm.=C2=A0 I was a fan but the powers that were at Sun at = the
>time just didn't want competition for SPARC.

I have vague memories of the Road Runner.=C2=A0 But I also recall, circa 1993, Sun was trying very hard not to sell a '386 port of Solaris that<= br> I wanted to get my hands on.

At the time I was spinning up a brand new university campus.=C2=A0 We
were, as all academia were, $$$ constrained.=C2=A0 Windows was starting
to roll out, but the incoming academics wanted UNIX to run their
code on.=C2=A0 Sun had just leaked out a 386-based release, but was
hiding it from everyone.=C2=A0 At the front-end of the campus build, my
thoughts were to get this Intel version of SunOS running on the
Intel boxes that we knew we had to buy, anyway, because MSDOS and
Windows.

At the '93 Interop I quickly tracked down the Sun booth and started
nailing down all the booth critters to set up a conversation about
doing a campus-wide binary license of the 386 port.=C2=A0 Both booth
shitheads could not be bothered.=C2=A0 They only wanted to SPARC the
booth babes across the aisle.

Does anyone remember the name of that Sun release?=C2=A0 I've forgotten= now.
Meanwhile, we signed up for a BSDi academic source license, and deployed UNIX on every PC that hit the campus.

Sun did eventually show up, many months after the campus opening.=C2=A0 Wit= h a
"million dollar" donation.=C2=A0 It was a heap of mostly broken w= orkstations
that they piled on the floor in the agora for a photo-op.=C2=A0 Same gig th= at
AT&T tried when they dumped the 3B4000 on us in Athabasca in 1990 ;-)
--lyndon

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