From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:146::1]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4961B27F3A for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2024 09:00:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4839A42A8A; Tue, 11 Jun 2024 16:59:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pg1-x535.google.com (mail-pg1-x535.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::535]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABE9F42A87 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2024 16:59:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pg1-x535.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-6819b3c92bbso622373a12.2 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2024 23:59:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kev009.com; s=google; t=1718089191; x=1718693991; darn=tuhs.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=ANI1pZ2D5kX469WwN1PmDaRoc5mNP0qd5QGdtjcKlFE=; b=MOFQ+q4XLibvcGQ4gwrdEaTRHgdSv7VtBghjBMQlu29WJ2GSj99QI8PB8OJ3RgQJv2 mpaio4rXJ2K0m4MlS2XnUyGmH8Imgn6klKqnVgE6A7NH/cL7ZJ61Ss2ppQ4RYaWgVNCx fcFcuUtDwyCJ+zpjJnTOT3Tipa3tLTcmbKxLw= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1718089191; x=1718693991; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ANI1pZ2D5kX469WwN1PmDaRoc5mNP0qd5QGdtjcKlFE=; b=KPGzXYKJ3tCzTvBpmag3f/GRIkzU+9HElI/BbfYhe65hhrKc6LaF6KSC18BpVJV5Rl cVt/bqORE3EXHUHfKOkOK1HtQGALHUwgv2dxfvh7BYoTdI9WJfVYC4gqSjYTJ69bBp24 JTwruoyyTdrR+NEu1WhqMyr3YLtbh5czI7oNSDnWF2tvnzjp1RdeKA6WjGChivGYfcix 4FWc/4cRdHNqXoKcsi4wPEwZqdOd3X13kzkYFHSXsDLd6dF5SKfn1NV0zP6+LFSKQQS1 Az11l9LnBV2a3zl70u5mON42oAqEt/LO/Y+X7c2vgaxcqDOOXcMplzpgb+WaaNua1sp1 HgiQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwtJzrEB8FC1XRFoYi6wClw2J2idM7TynEa4776nqfrvW1a4UF5 kcvC2SoFbbJboyBpc4CKktcqYM9v3i0mlq/PdfyvkKRGysb5Fwn6p/5J01cGb1qp+SmJvL19CM5 PiuUAfDhB0hFBbgycZc8Uxcop5wrXJXHi0RTM X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGnVvtC+i7ZNzMYVLd43+qZPMZZCHkYkOoKkpeVqNduNVp+zuFLvDVJkRHz4YJtNDEX0yHZ17F6pHegpcqfxxw= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:4706:b0:2c2:dfc3:10b6 with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-2c2dfc31253mr6947684a91.24.1718089190536; Mon, 10 Jun 2024 23:59:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Kevin Bowling Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 23:59:38 -0700 Message-ID: To: segaloco Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: KUBXE3SLPLJ7RQCGJQCLHWW4QABJ4PRY X-Message-ID-Hash: KUBXE3SLPLJ7RQCGJQCLHWW4QABJ4PRY X-MailFrom: kevin.bowling@kev009.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: 5ESS UNIX RTR Reference Manual - Issue 10 (2001) List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 11:06=E2=80=AFPM segaloco via TUHS = wrote: > > Good evening, while I'm still waiting on the full uploads to progress (it= 's like there's a rule any >100MB upload to archive.org for me has to fail = like 5 times before it'll finally go...) I decided to scrape out the UNIX R= TR manual from a recent trove of 5ESS materials I received and tossed it up= in a separate upload: > > https://archive.org/details/5ess-switch-unix-rtr-operating-system-referen= ce-manual-issue-10 > > This time around I've got Issue 10 from December 2001. The last issue of= this particular manual I found on another 5ESS disc is Issue 7 from 1998 w= hich I shared previously (https://ia601200.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?= archive=3D%2F12%2Fitems%2F5ess-switch-dk5e-cd-1999-05%2F5ESS-DK5E.zip&file= =3D5EDOCS%2F93447.PDF) > > The manual is in "DynaText" format on the CD in question, unlike Issue 7 = which was already a PDF on its respective CD. I used print-to-PDF to gener= ate the above linked copy. Given that the CD itself is from 2007, this may= point to UNIX RTR having no significant user-visible changes from 2001 to = 2007 that would've necessitated manual revisions. > > In any case, I intend to upload bin/cue images of all 7 of the CDs I've r= eceived which span from 1999 to 2007, and mostly concern the 5ESS-2000 swit= ch from the administrative and maintenance points of view. Once I get arch= ive.org to choke these files down I also intend to go back around to the di= scs I've already archived and reupload them as proper bin/cue rips. I was = in a hurry the last time around and simply zipped the contents from the dis= cs, but aside from just being good archive practice, I think bin/cue is nec= essary for the other discs as they seem to have control information in the = disc header that is required by the interactive documentation viewers there= in. > I have some of these CDs already and can compare notes with you: DK5E-CD from 2004, OA&M from 2008. I think you can just copy the SGML files to a HDD once you have DynaText installed, so whatever is funky about the CDs is not terribly important for use aside from the fidelity of your archival. Some of my CDs also use something called Eloquent Presenter which seems like a HyperCard style program. All the docs that aren't SGML are PDF, including most of the schematics, plenty which look like scans of originals. > All that to say, the first pass will result in bin/cues which aren't easi= ly readable through archive.org's interface, but I intend to also swing bac= k around on these new discs and provide zips of the contents as well to ens= ure the archives are both correct (bin/cue) and easily navigable (zip). > > As always, if you have any such documentation or leads on where any may b= e awaiting archival, I'm happy to take on the work! FWIW I have a fully working 5ESS that I turned off last week (actually a 7 R/E - 3B21D, CM3 (Global Message Server), 20k lines a mix of POTS, ISDN, PRI trunks) and it is coming home with me at the end of the month. Small matters of loading, unloading, AC PDU and getting a sizable DC power plant and unbounded wiring are in my future. Why? I dunno but full send. I need to have a think on how to be public with all this going forward, I do want to share the system and the goal is historical preservation and learning with interested parties. > - Matt G.