From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id fbf1d24b for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 09:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D3B2A9C0F7; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:34:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838BF9BDD8; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:33:20 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="key not found in DNS" (0-bit key; unprotected) header.d=kev009.com header.i=@kev009.com header.b="dBy7sSsH"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 63CCC9BDD8; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:33:17 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-il1-f180.google.com (mail-il1-f180.google.com [209.85.166.180]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 219669B87B for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:33:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-il1-f180.google.com with SMTP id g12so24912267ild.2 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 01:33:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kev009.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=BHUumZs3Wg2bMRFlTQlxB2Sdgdmyn3vF7GUhSQeHWsY=; b=dBy7sSsH+2CRhW1qt0sCVi+DkxBp1vb2hMRl7Bd93eA3q44xtAEPELKOfu5PSnncXV 6TWo4SfQkB7mQ557uhEsnSQeBaqJ5y5bnJprA+CTivWI8RMjCxWXmsU7bru6N0A0CWr0 qHX+Ft0AR7veOczH+FVfjkyYmv3xmTceD1cPE= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=BHUumZs3Wg2bMRFlTQlxB2Sdgdmyn3vF7GUhSQeHWsY=; b=jdCYLvkqm2fdJRV32Dse2BgBagnam+HkbkSk5/0UM0QTKtXYVauTHzpel+WGPWWAn9 XPxoFfr4i4VERnEEnQmBTtOCm5g3iZL/zMPDgD7Qa9hRZ5JHEiXacMwwB95tuHMTK10o ztu9m7Xy8gVHbN3ZD5HgskbjxVWQu9MBAwjiAaj0VO7xDVNh9TOm9qMST5Rl3jiWCeHy FEGwu04hSXzJ7d7PXodwRlzeChBXrJ5btm9rQGDPyrNEgOeW1lRmmRAZ5IpiQ0IqLsN4 1/l6/wDauce3nnUu/lKJZodj+pq2UadKvm3P30/md9rczhrs6VeYbZIE5+t7H3bSLvdm n9LA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXF0DP4QHuc2FHdZKmc5FExl9vUGolINWxzPqcoWn907qXys7Ob EorIl/lSxHHW/3SZcBGdwnILPxq5CjQJQz33rKHDjk2MIW+7Bw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzZmWKDKjdz6vMzCcFbFZevPAlKftgvilEM25XUACBzdJTbS4DqlEKY6QfUBnx3RJFzf+lo7G+VvWP1AEgro6A= X-Received: by 2002:a92:3a02:: with SMTP id h2mr6310602ila.236.1579426395279; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 01:33:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5A5107E4-06AD-4C2B-B590-15C17B301D44@cfcl.com> <20200118203422.2c7o_%steffen@sdaoden.eu> In-Reply-To: <20200118203422.2c7o_%steffen@sdaoden.eu> From: Kevin Bowling Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 02:33:04 -0700 Message-ID: To: Rich Morin , TUHS main list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] "What UNIX Cost Us" X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Apropos of nothing, I've noticed there are a handful of systems charlatans that fast talk, relish in condencention, and make lame humor to try to appeal to the unlearned (because systems has become fairly esoteric in the expanding industry) frequenting the conference tracks. I guess everyone is supposed to be impressed. Cool. IMO not worth this list's time. On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 1:35 PM Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > > Rich Morin wrote in <5A5107E4-06AD-4C2B-B590-15C17B301D44@cfcl.com>: > |FWIW, I found this talk to be quite amusing and interesting. > | > |"What UNIX Cost Us" - Benno Rice (LCA 2020) > |https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-IWMbJXoLM > > That is the one who mutilated the FreeBSD fortune program no? > (Despite it saying > > The potentially offensive fortunes are installed by default on FreeBSD > systems. If you're absolutely, *positively*, without-a-shadow-of-a-doubt > sure that your user community goes berzerk/sues your pants off/drops dead > upon reading one of them, edit the Makefile in the subdirectory datfiles, > and do "make all install".) > > Nothing but a hollow lie ever since! > > --steffen > | > |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, > |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one > |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off > |(By Robert Gernhardt)