From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 043a058d for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 01:59:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B5FFF9C0B2; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 11:59:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17619C090; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 11:59:07 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="key not found in DNS" (0-bit key; unprotected) header.d=kev009.com header.i=@kev009.com header.b="hIPhgfD4"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 11E239C08F; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 11:59:05 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-io1-f45.google.com (mail-io1-f45.google.com [209.85.166.45]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 571869BD74 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 11:59:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-io1-f45.google.com with SMTP id k1so4865636ioj.6 for ; Sun, 03 Nov 2019 17:59:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kev009.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mpNJcrzeF/QULRsL9tgerWBRtSINA9qLvUoZeGkL4Pk=; b=hIPhgfD4eA6psTA6FppFGJm9Y3K2qyMuEDNgQS1FajBD74TKHuFUZ8/x/fBqeKMIRA fuw/9Rpi46szt6NBT/9kgLCqL4doPUZPeojd4d292Yc31cEQ9tHRQZC3cmQ29EDuESKK ZXfv0Hr51Y/m/ig3kk1TyoFsvxrIBHD9jsbiU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mpNJcrzeF/QULRsL9tgerWBRtSINA9qLvUoZeGkL4Pk=; b=hNZ9J3DB3s6wKGp65fSHBS5GzAOwuOX1i8UsEv1gXTCdjqHimWHA7CGKXMiKXlNPgd 6G79SMbfp72BPdyV2KUZ89Z+sRpBTaT+9R/fUSSLuNPLd94vGj2uS9w0FTKSk6mf3w8y rImrt/+ulHZm99dn4Gz+L7JFHv8kRfUWyKNJhkJJfmNFmJpShhkNyYQghyM6vmlUKXGs eqESKRx6V1fC8BhKdkWjo7BmhC/F7zXtHhYhNDrlK+1//rk2DszkgN3vx+5PZMmhc21l mC/mM5xM6bdgA1zp4Tx5DMm5Db2W0TNQWhpAuxFOBj+2WLAQLX9hd3Rz23uzkGJYMkS7 p2hA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVKGpDRhuBWgS0KBhXATgVCmhL+fKZq4za/N4vh+kGtaOnTlAVb Gayn2LgncNvOXbgzsDk5TYYfbveEMvt/vAji7v/L5zVYmWXVdg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzwk0ouEQr83mVYj2h0Qn58zNgyzr/48HrAclKm5uHfiOTXS4mTnD/LfRpQUoTLZqZm1JolixdUZoxjDYA4k0s= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:7d0b:: with SMTP id c11mr2545404ioq.236.1572832743501; Sun, 03 Nov 2019 17:59:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191103232928.A36F92950D6@yagi.h-net.msu.edu> <20191104012953.D155029511A@yagi.h-net.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20191104012953.D155029511A@yagi.h-net.msu.edu> From: Kevin Bowling Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 18:58:52 -0700 Message-ID: To: Dennis Boone Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [TUHS] Amdahl UTS, AIX/370, AIX/ESA X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" We live in an imperfect world. All we can do is try; it will certainly cease with inaction. It's painfully ironic we have effectively limitless perfect preservation systems [1] now, but are losing worthwhile information at an astonishing rate. I suspect most estate sales, and even professional archivists[2] trash manuals, tape and things like microfiche without really thinking much about it because they don't really understand how to bring it to permanent storage systems or that nobody else has done so either. [1] Stack your favorite local filesystem, a public cloud, and/or archive.or= g [2] I accidentally came across this pulling up the tape baking link showing almost this https://ricehistorycorner.com/2015/05/13/obsolete-technology-reel-to-reel/ Regards, Kevin On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 6:30 PM Dennis Boone wrote: > > > There=E2=80=99s a chance some media needs a small amount of heat over = time > > applied =E2=80=9Ctape baking=E2=80=9D but a facility to do that is rea= dily available > > almost anywhere. > > Problem is that you can't necessarily tell _which_ by inspection. And > if you just try reading it, the one that needed help will take damage in > the drive. > > De