[TUHS] Re: forgotten versions

[Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com>]

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On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 1:46 PM Paul Ruizendaal <pnr@planet.nl> wrote:

>
> > On 25 Jun 2022, at 21:16, Anthony Martin <ality@pbrane.org> wrote:
> >
> > The following papers are a good overview of Datakit and its
> > predecessors.
> >
> > A. Fraser, "Towards a Universal Data Transport System," in IEEE
> > Journal on Selected Areas in Communications, vol. 1, no. 5, pp.
> > 803-816, November 1983, doi: 10.1109/JSAC.1983.1145998.
> >
> > A. G. Fraser, "Early experiments with asynchronous time division
> > networks," in IEEE Network, vol. 7, no. 1, pp. 12-26, Jan. 1993,
> > doi:10.1109/65.193084.
> >
> > The latter mentions Plan 9 but only in passing.
>
> Yes, those are great papers - unfortunately behind a paywall.
>
> There is a great 1994 video on Youtube by Sandy Fraser himself that more
> or less follows the 1993 paper:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojRtJ1U6Qzw
>

Superb.  The story of an invention told through metaphors and mistakes.


> As Doug mentioned on this list, Sandy Fraser passed away earlier this
> month.
>

I was unfamiliar with Sandy prior to this thread.


> In the past years I’ve worked on understanding (early) Datakit and Sandy
> Fraser and his wife were most kind with assistance looking for papers. I’ve
> also benefitted from the input of Bill Marshall and of course Doug McIlroy.
> I’ll share my summary of Research Datakit in a separate post.
>
> Paul
>
> > Paul Ruizendaal <pnr@planet.nl> once said:
> >> Probably you will see echoes of this in early Plan9 network code, but I
> have not studied that.
> >
> > As someone how has studied Plan 9 extensively, though with no insider
> > knowledge, it's definitely noticeable.
> >
> > "In the aftermath, perhaps the most valuable effect of dealing with
> > Datakit was to encourage the generalized and flexible approach to
> > networking begun in 8th edition Unix that is carried forward into Plan
> > 9." - dmr (2004)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >  Anthony
>
>

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