From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id dcee2d37 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 08:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B43879BD87; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 18:01:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0929BC44; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 18:01:08 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="key not found in DNS" (0-bit key; unprotected) header.d=kev009.com header.i=@kev009.com header.b="O2zuZo8u"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A58F79BC44; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 18:01:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-io1-f45.google.com (mail-io1-f45.google.com [209.85.166.45]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 748EA9BC43 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 18:01:05 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-io1-f45.google.com with SMTP id u19so1093496ior.9 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 01:01:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kev009.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=krczIyIEAhWDcd3hOcb51/6eumUiPP1M/lBInX+xrmU=; b=O2zuZo8uapXOtXDEQl4jQrcznhLa4cPEsIE6cU/Ezi7jfI2BUF4lAYMbrnR29NPpgs sjmrt8HZIV3D7HdGTBu3dy4iuRGE9D3ptKbvbVyuj0cvmXn/u8By5tPauzFZ15fRszmV 708UkiXv25gAzzmO/aOayizvSE5pLY5zg+YGo= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=krczIyIEAhWDcd3hOcb51/6eumUiPP1M/lBInX+xrmU=; b=kTdYLwM2wpAu2kVR5xDmm8fJDedrtV7CIj4nWDY/trrqUjZ+6iWqB+YkbWjEzusn7G 3//8/ec2dZPvipClY4ak1kHxu5zI5W9+gdhmD/jo+ustGLdl7UB8FPfkDDLPosSHk8bY uI63tq4Oowf41k27LbvXwZ5ZmlB/Qzh6/Z98TuBchzR2geIWTc3LAM2MlxGd1+1JnMmk apNZHtX9HuPxYTYW5FGVUf7EzmTmxTOos3BbcFLLBqtIjdQMGnKWypP7/ON26FTjL+gD ch23cDUZlz41OgAWU5rQjWjw1E0QD9UCXRONHEf+vReNFVErKscs+hjpVT9i0Qo60sd0 fYFQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXjuU4yfrwoiS8BDjmccOqk924AnWaN18bGPD9+LtpXsXTDlv7O pc8pY6RVOYzqYn8CqhAyzLnRZAmJohevkEXyHDHVVg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxrYxbUclJOOElW83KyCrRbdNX+h83QTWOniW76fUKj1M2GkPR7CnQTvhqoYHF+v+uO5BYoSTMWbBeDu6z/pxk= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:7909:: with SMTP id i9mr3428133iop.8.1561449664782; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 01:01:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8D0B5B0D-9956-47D7-8D36-1729BB1E1DA9@eschatologist.net> <5df8c6f6-2768-4bfb-9c47-3345098078a7@PU1APC01FT048.eop-APC01.prod.protection.outlook.com> <20190625000630.GA7655@mcvoy.com> <20190625003120.GA28608@mit.edu> <20190625004523.GB7655@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: From: Kevin Bowling Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 01:00:54 -0700 Message-ID: To: Richard Salz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] CMU Mach sources? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Why not? The utility of history isn't just recording or paying reverence for the past, we can also draw conclusions in the current or insights into the future -- "the old new thing" That's certainly why I'm here and invest in computer history. Of course it can be lossy, and victors get more air time. But there's nothing inherently wrong with strong opinions or criticism of the past. Regards, Kevin On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 6:01 PM Richard Salz wrote: > > Is this really the kind of commentary appropriate for this list? I mean I'm new here, but...