From: Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>
Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org, Josh Good <pepe@naleco.com>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Zombified SCO comes back from the dead, brings trial back to life against IBM
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 09:14:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK7dMtCaTxL9y76R2NukRojvAAs75w+AQ9qYDX9bKDcYMjR0OQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210401153337.GK4209@mcvoy.com>
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On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 8:34 AM Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 05:27:40PM +0200, Josh Good wrote:
> > On 2021 Apr 1, 09:12, Warner Losh wrote:
> > > The other set of claims made, which may be stronger, was that IBM and
> > > Redhat used their dominant position to lock out OSes other than Linux,
> > > including FreeBSD from their cloud platform.
> >
> > I don't think IBM has a dominant position in the cloud business.
> Microsoft's
> > Azure and Amazon's AWS are the dominant forces in the cloud business.
> >
> > I don't see merit on that claim from XinuOS. They are just firing in all
> > directions to find out if by chance they hit some target with money to
> milk.
>
> And the real joke is that they haven't done any serious work so far as I
> can
> tell. The original SCO sucked and then they release SVr<something> but so
> far as I know, there wasn't a decent development team. When I was doing
> the TCP/IP port I worked with Jeff Radik a bunch but I never got the sense
> there were big projects at SCO, it was mostly out sourcing. That was a
> long time ago so who knows.
My understanding is SCO was known for good company with good engineers in
the early ‘90s. Do we not have any alumni on this list?
>
> All I know is that Sun did orders of magnitude more work to the kernel,
> libraries, at the rest of user space.
I think amongst other problems they got fragmented too early with three
unix forks for that small a company.
>
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Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-04-01 14:50 Josh Good
2021-04-01 15:12 ` Warner Losh
2021-04-01 15:27 ` Josh Good
2021-04-01 15:33 ` Larry McVoy
2021-04-01 16:14 ` Kevin Bowling [this message]
2021-04-01 16:26 ` John Cowan
2021-04-01 17:54 ` Thomas Paulsen
2021-04-01 16:27 ` Nemo Nusquam
2021-04-02 2:16 ` Kevin Bowling
2021-04-02 3:52 ` Wesley Parish
2021-04-02 5:26 ` Kevin Bowling
2021-04-02 16:03 ` Clem Cole
2021-04-02 16:11 ` Larry McVoy
2021-04-02 16:39 ` Heinz Lycklama
2021-04-02 17:14 ` Clem Cole
2021-04-02 17:17 ` [TUHS] AIX repeat [was " Charles H Sauer
2021-04-03 1:24 ` [TUHS] " Wesley Parish
2021-04-04 2:46 ` Adam Thornton
2021-04-04 2:50 ` Adam Thornton
2021-04-04 5:29 ` [TUHS] How to Kill a Technical Conference (was: Zombified SCO comes back from the dead, brings trial back to life against IBM) G. Branden Robinson
2021-04-04 18:22 ` Clem Cole
2021-04-04 20:54 ` Richard Salz
2021-04-04 21:11 ` Clem Cole
2021-04-05 0:36 ` John Cowan
2021-04-05 2:19 ` Warner Losh
2021-04-05 18:07 ` [TUHS] How to Kill a Technical Conference John Gilmore
2021-04-05 19:30 ` Clem Cole
2021-04-05 20:34 ` Richard Salz
2021-04-05 20:42 ` William Cheswick
2021-04-06 4:37 ` Ed Bradford
2021-04-05 20:39 ` Larry McVoy
2021-04-05 21:11 ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-04-05 21:17 ` Dan Cross
2021-04-06 15:39 ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-04-06 5:49 ` Dave Horsfall
2021-04-05 7:48 ` [TUHS] Whither Usenix [was How To Kill A Technical Conference] arnold
2021-04-05 14:05 ` [TUHS] How to Kill a Technical Conference (was: Zombified SCO comes back from the dead, brings trial back to life against IBM) Theodore Ts'o
2021-04-05 22:26 ` David Arnold
2021-04-04 23:30 ` A. P. Garcia
2021-04-04 3:41 ` [TUHS] Zombified SCO comes back from the dead, brings trial back to life against IBM Gregg Levine
2021-04-04 3:57 ` Adam Thornton
2021-04-02 5:41 ` David Arnold
2021-04-02 6:09 ` Steve Nickolas
2021-04-02 7:00 ` arnold
2021-04-02 9:53 ` Steve Nickolas
2021-04-02 10:26 ` arnold
2021-04-02 14:02 ` Josh Good
2021-04-02 14:17 ` Steve Nickolas
2021-04-02 15:16 ` Larry McVoy
2021-04-02 15:28 ` Fabio Scotoni
2021-04-03 1:50 ` Dave Horsfall
2021-04-03 1:55 ` Warner Losh
2021-04-03 2:23 ` Larry McVoy
2021-04-03 2:34 ` Earl Baugh
2021-04-03 6:16 ` Dan Stromberg
2021-04-04 16:18 ` Tony Finch
2021-04-04 1:48 ` David Arnold
2021-04-04 2:23 ` Larry McVoy
2021-04-04 8:55 ` Josh Good
2021-04-04 14:43 ` Michael Parson
2021-04-04 15:36 ` Warner Losh
2021-04-04 16:15 ` Clem Cole
2021-04-04 22:25 ` David Arnold
2021-04-04 22:55 ` Clem Cole
2021-04-05 2:30 ` Dave Horsfall
2021-04-04 23:00 ` Bakul Shah
2021-04-04 23:33 ` Clem Cole
2021-04-05 1:34 ` Bakul Shah
2021-04-05 2:58 ` Kenneth Goodwin
2021-04-05 12:35 ` John Cowan
2021-04-05 20:44 ` Kevin Bowling
2021-04-04 23:34 ` Josh Good
2021-04-04 20:08 ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
2021-04-04 21:00 ` Jon Steinhart
2021-04-04 21:40 ` Clem Cole
2021-04-04 21:54 ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
2021-04-04 22:02 ` Jon Steinhart
2021-04-04 21:58 ` Clem Cole
2021-04-04 23:48 ` Dave Horsfall
2021-04-04 23:53 ` Larry McVoy
2021-04-07 5:15 ` Dan Stromberg
2021-04-05 13:37 ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-04-07 1:52 ` Adam Thornton
2021-04-02 15:25 ` Josh Good
2021-04-03 3:10 ` John Cowan
2021-04-02 16:40 ` Boyd Lynn Gerber
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