From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 15414 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2022 22:27:45 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 16 Dec 2022 22:27:45 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A8B42444; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 08:27:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-f41.google.com (mail-vs1-f41.google.com [209.85.217.41]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD56642440 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 08:27:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-f41.google.com with SMTP id c184so3671563vsc.3 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 14:27:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dartmouth.edu; s=google1; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=k8KVZ1cCDf43yToyXMztfU/6797AyvcGmLcW/XBpOZs=; b=U7L3UIUcx19/HHy8+FrfAyPMF5ilgR1tJMPg8Snvy6PkZssB/BCG2NpXmZpbDNxdSB 3C+BBIpiec/4QeiIlyosG3IIq8Fz8SZiv8+iiHIb3Rd+Gl5TKajADXSEKrKms98ZqNAu +OSN2M8z3huwakoFC6o7qJl4cTn90lsTdDeLEUdiWQ+zzSB4GBSIWRjU1qoaoDARp8uB Ca/DFouuxIHNiavuebMMvPvE8iHr7RcXTO5BDzPijXqdYEzxM7kv+5Vj0b9GnqqIMD8X 6nCxA4050oeuvFFDY9OCQj5rP1gRPFImTuNNf0rggTQJD0Ijrk++f9LrSqoyqWqiteMA 9StQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=k8KVZ1cCDf43yToyXMztfU/6797AyvcGmLcW/XBpOZs=; b=I9wQmTdS+UK6TeRJFPyGr5FVJHb/JjjtXB/+Hvgqv3h92eK5mzKlkMI4N6qcJYd+LG AOrshIkeA1Ods1y4jIRRGKn0jKgFbjMchQyaLytOV8tJNUR+sVMBFG2gX0sRLu9mkaoO 8pIx1OSxasSKqJ4Ny0JVhUr5/LLO1zxTW3zMhHH59mKvDHuarOZoan6WOExkHOnRfTFB j8iP6klAKdeBfqPJTBZjwEcn4ovSR/ceelr1L8tI+o/Bu4fvF04tsQq+UzHLEgpaU3a0 RaTtJkbxeLouTeaFsDWsx2twwxw+vDdbAnudN4hY/oormGi+Azt2Wfimr0MpIZpIMYQ6 rZcw== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pk1DDLYWD0Dw8Yg52jP3yGZS4HjnWzxsTAc95M0X9VoWATUg1Wm 2X3qgFQ4TTZBfTq5/ogSce+qKQc76mOijsVcQ6kbtHVxaE9UzfWP X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf4Lc+W2aI1AtftEUj+Xc7tueYm1lkDjEWx/GF9dsVNJRJmYdheas/9830tO0q4SeuwYXHfdYCOTZT0pifIsaXw= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:3164:b0:3b5:fd8:7948 with SMTP id l4-20020a056102316400b003b50fd87948mr2897333vsm.85.1671229593411; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 14:26:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Douglas McIlroy Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:26:19 -0500 Message-ID: To: TUHS main list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-ID-Hash: JB7LZZKTAAQW2MIGOL25AXCKZDCV4GZT X-Message-ID-Hash: JB7LZZKTAAQW2MIGOL25AXCKZDCV4GZT X-MailFrom: douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: origin of null-terminated strings List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: > To what extent were the Unix folks at Bell Labs already familiar with DEC systems before the PDP-7? Some awareness, but no hands-on experience, > was any thought given to trying to get a 360 system? Very serious thought. However, virtual memory was a non-negotiable desideratum, to which Gene Amdahl was implacably opposed because demand paging would devastate hardware performance. Soon after GE got the nod, IBM revealed Gerrit Blaauw's skunk-works project, the 360/67, but by then the die had been cast. Michigan bought one and built a nice time-sharing system that was running well before Multics. Doug