From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 29999 invoked from network); 11 May 2023 18:52:24 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 11 May 2023 18:52:24 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A82B4251F; Fri, 12 May 2023 04:52:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-xe2b.google.com (mail-vs1-xe2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2b]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 289BF42503 for ; Fri, 12 May 2023 04:52:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-xe2b.google.com with SMTP id ada2fe7eead31-43469a7946eso2909445137.1 for ; Thu, 11 May 2023 11:52:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dartmouth.edu; s=google1; t=1683831130; x=1686423130; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=8aTbJ4hn+OJZgUEt3m1VVeEeBR3GXJRQzTmOHgqkvqo=; b=GCK4y/t/74ClsZ1mnsB4WVGmisBBllsBDb8zg+PFwdrTdGihVfAnZwlZJpAlCmpRPF JF+iy7n6a0g8NmHUFr6y0OHv6YP9Url4dfYl0Fipbv77pjO6iirA3JfEn/ZQ8LtaH9pB qMuwCHc++H7fXA7t+gBw2JjJazxXIERYaLostRMXDlxlO4zQ7p7IcCvyp6Ya3BxqbVp3 POH79U3wo9O31Zz9xBJk6m+Vt17QCT1Z7FQp0BUZHLZuyrstM6Lr6t91KvCZU+X9RfCP 0MYrUq2uz6pkqIYs9trDwprfu97ERPpVbNqkesLf2UQ7eLNSiC6g5Ag3gENpJiJecGgw OOhQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1683831130; x=1686423130; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=8aTbJ4hn+OJZgUEt3m1VVeEeBR3GXJRQzTmOHgqkvqo=; b=UgR19J/Blou90RerBVOmDtw0zdJvsWbaEgwaKh3q8FjzekhVNU07yGABjsS3f/jVO6 XymjYQNbsuw8fEwbywRGuU7NdubiMVY5N3Z0e/HiY34SCFaaz3wIiBHH+pk0nhLwcw+n 86KJceM98/nSsU8lA6PIR2l8oFMG9zV+I0Te/Pd2grnD/bMAnG3GTOaA1OyK17TbmfQ2 23+xxgEB1wwvb7oFwexS48fHfqSJEHC2mSivAXhJ3mWDC9ztKJC1uM6XDT4ycCJLZzUH b0du6NJzaooU9+/gna9DQY343OE1cFZZ03Ee53dG4RcaFEQdjmecFHIjEM6Na8/DJhXL 4SWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDz0m8msYvm+fbkA6vaMRywuZlVvhjCnCGZqzqw2ftOMO0Lfl+il WLV+HzIDmYC6S8uFTDLbR38t8RO9S+vqapxABBIP+w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ6UBAemG8koY3KGOuYXvEzhXzvEL43RBT4hqW2RnCQ5g9/d9wGdIkoxyHPBqcwDYc0KeubnbzBH2RUdIzfKhiI= X-Received: by 2002:a67:f489:0:b0:42e:6185:8c94 with SMTP id o9-20020a67f489000000b0042e61858c94mr7450190vsn.29.1683831129947; Thu, 11 May 2023 11:52:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Douglas McIlroy Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 14:51:54 -0400 Message-ID: To: Warner Losh Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: K7QBYC4V45UG4MHYAOJHD7SQ63EBQNZT X-Message-ID-Hash: K7QBYC4V45UG4MHYAOJHD7SQ63EBQNZT X-MailFrom: douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: segaloco , The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: BSTJ 1978 UNIX Issue Price Appreciation List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: If the BSTJ ever was distributed in a slip box, it was only to people above my pay grade. The gray spine must have been specially printed, for the BSTJ was always blue, as seen in the slip-box window. Doug On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 1:38=E2=80=AFPM Warner Losh wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 11:26=E2=80=AFAM segaloco via TUHS wrote: >> >> Howdy folks, I was perusing old copies of ;login: and came across a note= about the BSTJ UNIX issue in the August 1978 newsletter: https://archive.o= rg/details/login_august-1978 >> >> What I find particularly amusing is that all UNIX licensees at the time = of that publication allegedly were provided a copy free of charge. The tex= t goes on to indicate additional copies can be purchased for a measly $1.50= . >> >> Fast forward to today and I typically don't see this copy pop up on auct= ion for less than $100. Still, amazing how something was being just tossed= out to anyone who wanted one and now here 45 years later, it's a mad scram= ble to find the same. Then there's this listing: https://www.ebay.com/itm/= 134212722284?hash=3Ditem1f3fb39e6c:g:9VEAAOSw8HtjCp2H&amdata=3Denc%3AAQAIAA= AA4IPDo14%2B7%2BCT30D5MvU1f9BJm77l1XWLxt2ojhau503DpckIGbEgDyGAtPFQgj8m5y9Ce= bRCho1Y9INzCsMX72UaQy96ent8gqtgFWH5MY3kpSNzkYBKgrjnVDMiom2HOuqHiy5H%2FzRjvp= dv0BE7tKJ7tJv4BRuCeSEPoqd2U%2FdfuKVuvOTdG%2B28JSWuPcN764AWcg3EbpeU7LUiGEELw= jxL0FTsCQ%2F2wK5AuuwK8E9E7WFVuZzsm07jesQcjq75A7t5fM0ggrRX2Mn9cO9%2BHRAP7KcO= YhGJ1BqIYz1P1FzL%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_bFmL2BYg >> >> $3000 dollars...quite shocking, although perhaps they're banking on the = uniqueness of that little sleeve, I've never seen one of those with a BSTJ = issue before. Was that some sort of packaging the issues were delivered in= ? It has the Bell Logo in the little window on either side, so I want to b= elieve it's original and not something someone threw together after the fac= t. >> >> In any case, I suspect part of the low pricing is due to Bell anti-trust= stuff, as they really moved on nickle and diming on documentation once the= y were legally able to. In any case, I'm always shocked to see how much I = paid for something in my archival efforts and then I find a price sheet onl= y to find out someone bought a book back in the day for the cost of a burge= r and fries. While I'm pursuing documents for research purposes...I may be= inadvertently building myself quite the value store without even meaning t= o... > > > I bought mine in the couple of years for like $20. I think $3k is delusio= nal. They range from $25-$250 in the last year for 'offered' price, mostly= in the < $100 range for the ones that sell... > > Warner