From: Douglas McIlroy <douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu>
To: TUHS main list <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] The 'usage: ...' message. (Was: On Bloat...)
Date: Sun, 19 May 2024 19:08:12 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKH6PiUoQBjD3cMHWELN3Hp+jf0=2fyFcqNbfwwe76YfKjGFiw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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>> Another non-descriptive style of error message that I admired was that
>> of Berkeley Pascal's syntax diagnostics. When the LR parser could not
>> proceed, it reported where, and automatically provided a sample token
>> that would allow the parsing to progress. I found this uniform
>> convention to be at least as informative as distinct hand-crafted
>> messages, which almost by definition can't foresee every contingency.
>> Alas, this elegant scheme seems not to have inspired imitators.
> The hazard with this approach is that the suggested syntactic correction
> might simply lead the user farther into the weeds
I don't think there's enough experience to justify this claim. Before I
experienced the Berkeley compiler, I would have thought such bad outcomes
were inevitable in any language. Although the compilers' suggestions often
bore little or no relationship to the real correction, I always found them
informative. In particular, the utterly consistent style assured there was
never an issue of ambiguity or of technical jargon.
The compiler taught me Pascal in an evening. I had scanned the Pascal
Report a couple of years before but had never written a Pascal program.
With no manual at hand, I looked at one program to find out what
mumbo-jumbo had to come first and how to print integers, then wrote the
rest by trial and error. Within a couple of hours I had a working program
good enough to pass muster in an ACM journal.
An example arose that one might think would lead "into the weeds". The
parser balked before 'or' in a compound Boolean expression like 'a=b and
c=d or x=y'. It couldn't suggest a right paren because no left paren had
been seen. Whatever suggestion it did make (perhaps 'then') was enough to
lead me to insert a remote left paren and teach me that parens are required
around Boolean-valued subexpressions. (I will agree that this lesson might
be less clear to a programming novice, but so might be many conventional
diagnostics, e.g. "no effect".)
Doug
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Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-19 23:08 Douglas McIlroy [this message]
2024-05-20 0:58 ` [TUHS] " Rob Pike
2024-05-20 3:19 ` arnold
2024-05-20 3:43 ` Warner Losh
2024-05-20 4:46 ` arnold
2024-05-20 9:20 ` [TUHS] A fuzzy awk. (Was: The 'usage: ...' message.) Ralph Corderoy
2024-05-20 11:58 ` [TUHS] " arnold
2024-05-20 13:10 ` Chet Ramey
2024-05-20 13:30 ` [TUHS] Re: A fuzzy awk Ralph Corderoy
2024-05-20 13:48 ` Chet Ramey
2024-05-20 3:54 ` [TUHS] Re: The 'usage: ...' message. (Was: On Bloat...) Bakul Shah via TUHS
2024-05-20 14:23 ` Clem Cole
2024-05-20 17:30 ` Greg A. Woods
2024-05-20 20:10 ` John Levine
2024-05-21 1:14 ` John Cowan
2024-05-20 17:40 ` Stuff Received
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2024-05-19 14:03 [TUHS] " Douglas McIlroy
2024-05-18 18:07 [TUHS] Re: On Bloat and the Idea of Small Specialized Tools Douglas McIlroy
2024-05-18 18:22 ` Ralph Corderoy
2024-05-19 8:58 ` [TUHS] The 'usage: ...' message. (Was: On Bloat...) Ralph Corderoy
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