From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 6316 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2021 22:01:01 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 11 Mar 2021 22:01:01 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 03F119C7AB; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 08:00:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF469B5B6; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 08:00:36 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=dartmouth.edu header.i=@dartmouth.edu header.b="WtItYO/i"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 09A879B5B6; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 08:00:35 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wm1-f44.google.com (mail-wm1-f44.google.com [209.85.128.44]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F3FA95074 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 08:00:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wm1-f44.google.com with SMTP id g8so2549585wmd.4 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 14:00:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dartmouth.edu; s=google1; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=f17H3UfO74nkDxAqrK5w6/1Um8Iszr3GT/OQvyQV+1U=; b=WtItYO/iocJm8j9Ort8xM+t7CRXwYN36BH0Bm6eTozVK+jJuRhh2AyFxwnYqmL5Fvl bnRPCkfxfbfqoup3B2R8qtwJt4Ah//HNNO0PhL1tOZQPrSnG+/jdp/FZzLGz8tdioJFJ Sxb7D3P7k2KsZKIzIeINqSAi86FVwzQmkov/pCJbCQjMs3Qf1cYxwXXrYzNFF4X5WpVL aASPdDL1ITutcQKhvmRujjjP/qM4qCA0OhJesN0HTX0kwzeR/9MkhM5uNTX6PmGHmDOY 7HrNTfCGed6MsZ5qtKbys88RrTShhbtLlQMb18AfCcnCJu4qm+prULRzydhNiBxZ8ntD mkdA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=f17H3UfO74nkDxAqrK5w6/1Um8Iszr3GT/OQvyQV+1U=; b=ksEmpCNLRXdHZ1pVv/Zh/EOeq8kaKC8c4k3fWmzKV8oc6G/4jFll33Do7uEaTupymc yTZQ0+a560tOqjwCE8mvGucfc1IFX2xjmjnpj00KrgWkVt3bOlg7P+rmjorT5mAiXIO9 h84kQ1TZxPMkhCPu6gEEGm47pz0jG4XwmPenSyuR11u8EkualgXUc0gQTCmVJsi+BjLs a5ui91d36it6xLyKA1+9QkCsPAWhwIk3qB6UwktrH2PVwzkaNASR1UTIhRgED56G6N+o uVu4CIuw6mZVq6InA46KR2P+HfZrGqTGcfU8cQcj8ZbPOx/aDgXejzW+fE9Az52HUTc+ Ydow== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53001Krd9pSQsmyz8kuOxDdfvTkMAsWH0fp4ZeE/LXm9z3sO8cTP xKTdHEKDgDIq3HHqC8bOuzcKAiPZ3FaVKSsSPDk+ixILLZ0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy96zZYicXBYUCPE1zEp50dtkQLJH6irHi9KIJubh21UTw9Zoln/gJ4hznoMjoGhQ2eBKIMu8umU0J54E8nsJw= X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c409:: with SMTP id k9mr10013732wmi.151.1615500032751; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 14:00:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <121E36A0-4D3D-42AD-A89A-E72FBDD32E39@humeweb.com> In-Reply-To: From: M Douglas McIlroy Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 17:00:18 -0500 Message-ID: To: Rob Pike Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000964a2405bd49e9a4" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Fred Grampp X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000964a2405bd49e9a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" A few days later, GR's receipt for paint arrived on my desk for approval. That was certainly above my pay grade, so upon weighing personalities, I decided to pass it two levels up the chain of command to Vic Vyssotsky, who famously returned it with a formal note that he was not authorized to approve plant improvements. The fact that Ken was in my department and GR wasn't (nor was Fred) stoked certain suspicions about the makeup of the water-tower team. Doug On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 3:30 PM Rob Pike wrote: > I don't believe the water tower was a one-person job. > > Fortunately I have a perfect alibi, being on the other side of the country > that day. > > -rob > > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 6:51 AM Ken Thompson wrote: > >> fred dumpster dove on the way to the labs. >> his prize, beside the cheese awfuls, was >> the bowling pins for the 6th floor bowling >> alley. >> >> fred was after a german ww2 enigma. he >> left requests at two european shops that >> were known to occasionally have one. >> when one came to light, fred and i split >> the price. after years of dwindling hope >> for another one showing up, fred an i >> flipped a coin to see who owned it. fred >> won. before his death he gave it to me. >> >> and lastly, and secret until now, fred >> painted the peter face on the water tower. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 8:14 AM M Douglas McIlroy < >> m.douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu> wrote: >> >>> Ah, yes. Fred would pick things up at the Keebler Baking factory outlet >>> on his way to work. >>> We called it the "used cookie store". >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 10:31 AM Andrew Hume wrote: >>> >>>> fred was certainly a character. >>>> >>>> perhaps ken or rob might confirm this, but i recall at least one of the >>>> canoe trips demonstrated >>>> the effects of dropping flour sacks onto canoes from a small airplane. >>>> (i was not present on any >>>> of these trips, but heard this from grampp.) >>>> >>>> he was also responsible for occasionally buying bulk bags of barely >>>> digestible cheese crackers >>>> (we called them cheese awfuls) and leaving them in the Unix Room to be >>>> eaten. >>>> >>>> > On Mar 11, 2021, at 7:06 AM, M Douglas McIlroy < >>>> m.douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > In all that's been written about the Research Unix players, >>>> > Fred Grampp has gotten far less coverage than he deserves. >>>> > I hope to rectify that with this post, most of which was >>>> > written soon after his death. >>>> > >>>> >>>> --000000000000964a2405bd49e9a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A few days later, GR's receipt for paint arrived on my= desk for approval.
That was certainly above my pay grade, so upon weig= hing personalities,
I decided to pass it two levels up the chain = of command to Vic Vyssotsky,
who famously returned it with a form= al note that=C2=A0he was not authorized to
approve plant improvem= ents. The fact that Ken was in my department
and GR wasn't (n= or was Fred) stoked certain suspicions about the makeup
of the wa= ter-tower team.

Doug

On Thu, M= ar 11, 2021 at 3:30 PM Rob Pike <robpike@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't believe the w= ater tower was a one-person job.

Fortunately I have a pe= rfect alibi, being on the other side of the country that day.

<= /div>
-rob


On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 6:51 AM Ke= n Thompson <kenbob= @gmail.com> wrote:
fred dumpster dove on the way to the labs.
= his prize, beside the cheese awfuls, was
the bowling pins for the= 6th floor bowling
alley.

fred was after= a german ww2 enigma. he
left requests at two european shops that=
were known to occasionally have one.
when one came to = light, fred and i split
the price. after years of dwindling hope<= /div>
for another one showing up, fred an i
flipped a coin to= see who owned it. fred
won. before his death he gave=C2=A0 it to= me.

and lastly, and secret until now, fred
<= div>painted the peter face on the water tower.


On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 8:14 AM M Douglas McIlroy <m.douglas.mcilroy@da= rtmouth.edu> wrote:
Ah, yes. Fred would pick things up at the Keebl= er Baking factory outlet on his way to work.
We called it=C2=A0the &quo= t;used cookie store".

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 10:31 AM Andrew Hum= e <andrew@humewe= b.com> wrote:
fred was certainly a character.

perhaps ken or rob might confirm this, but i recall at least one of the can= oe trips demonstrated
the effects of dropping flour sacks onto canoes from a small airplane. (i w= as not present on any
of these trips, but heard this from grampp.)

he was also responsible for occasionally buying bulk bags of barely digesti= ble cheese crackers
(we called them cheese awfuls) and leaving them in the Unix Room to be eate= n.

> On Mar 11, 2021, at 7:06 AM, M Douglas McIlroy <m.douglas.mcilroy@dartmou= th.edu> wrote:
>
> In all that's been written about the Research Unix players,
> Fred Grampp has gotten far less coverage than he deserves.
> I hope to rectify that with this post, most of which was
> written soon after his death.
>

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