From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 31035 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2022 22:03:28 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 11 Jan 2022 22:03:28 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C606E9CFD4; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 08:03:25 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216AF9CFCA; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 08:03:00 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=dartmouth.edu header.i=@dartmouth.edu header.b="LdqDNdk8"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 84C719CFC9; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 08:02:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wr1-f51.google.com (mail-wr1-f51.google.com [209.85.221.51]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C346B9C78F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 08:02:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wr1-f51.google.com with SMTP id q8so697914wra.12 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 14:02:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dartmouth.edu; s=google1; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=LNS1c4j+BR8O+1AWzYNVvexqw0ygEV3V84tXdApgow4=; b=LdqDNdk8H7xrqYox4nZ5aRJ+NrwbwPUdIFFo/3RrXjO0PjKZKe9TOhA0yJLgstqVox YqoJLkYvAttSGjPIXEx2lwRHWum5kF2wG5PIr9nqVfDgyIByYmIEK90G+Xv5KSnIbZVk TWOX0Wo8K8x2lHx261dA9L6jmbS8zuFye6K+g+YAor6nmhSIOcyspryuQlTkz8x9Siye yiQ88zdOgONMpMFdpQh5E7bzHndJWJTg0YtyL3FxeXR+Jl3fFp8ZU8Kp+7U6tZYgz7WM /WOq69JhZNB/cUSdPEqGj1MUuBJ6WVbuTIOwN6EtmlKSOWj/oJm6NAfMYMGLZlMqljc+ bEJg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=LNS1c4j+BR8O+1AWzYNVvexqw0ygEV3V84tXdApgow4=; b=NEfuWiaNTK1+PXjgdBgWCZCs96AZUO/y30+QtVJDR9MJyC01q+Z6ymcSdzQkBWHlHe m9g7tEicVIFQSHNyepmb76HmpWAXm+tcGHcxhlcDexrr1ymLB0Qa0ooyeL+nP+1BYOyv FsdC/6K7FXarV4STpa/Us6hKi3+EMq66aiPo8oa4irj6RftIUz1bThjobg5RBlQtUMPG aUoCEbxxW+EhUDMaxlDYUq0STbn+McVkMK4wFauEK08L2OsxzoMOnw87OQkRskMqSCgx UpjCnBZd3UND7lW/thK0w1LCozAbULAlUcdbHU+vwi0Vm58GxmQ3AwYZUJfnAreerzXz CLJg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531UfWLZCrDcz5Gm92wMJCPCb62M3DBwI99dret7Q+7HNU2xiSU/ QTVWTaUy2kk2YQombaEzZySv1v9KaRLDpB13uCyEXEVymtkFnA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyLnkksgzTzOiend4ClVlQfMJcUA9RjWyxc551HdW8oOdlSJZpHyLdHjfldTWW+MuTqs46qe6HUECZu/19PJSE= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:68c9:: with SMTP id p9mr5619138wrw.435.1641938576078; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 14:02:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Douglas McIlroy Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 17:02:39 -0500 Message-ID: To: TUHS main list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Demise of TeX and groff (was: roff(7)) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" > Later Brian's work was updated after V7 and included some new tools, and became known as Writer's Workbench, which eventually was entered in the 'toolchest.' WWB wouldn't exist if text had not routinely existed in machine-readable form, thanks to word-processing. But the impetus for WWB came from "style", not from troff. Style was a spinoff of Lorinda Cherry's "parts", which assigned parts of speech to the words of a document. Style provided a statistical profile of the text: measures such as average word length: frequency of passives, adjectives and compound sentences, reading level, etc. WWB in turn offered writing advice based on such profiles. Style was stimulated by Bill Vesterman, a professor of English at Rutgers, who brought the idea to me. I introduced him to Lorinda, who had it running in a couple of weeks. Then Nina McDonald at USG conceived and packaged WWB as a distinct product, not just a collection of entries in man 1. Wikipedia reports a surmise that WWB sank out of sight because it was not a standard part of Unix distributions. Doug