From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS,URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [50.116.15.146]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5A325125 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2025 16:00:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D2D4380D; Thu, 14 Aug 2025 00:00:31 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lf1-x134.google.com (mail-lf1-x134.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::134]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD233437A0 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2025 00:00:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lf1-x134.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-55b93104888so8417952e87.1 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2025 07:00:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dartmouth.edu; s=google1; t=1755093603; x=1755698403; darn=tuhs.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=SPaI90GU3acd30AGeDhuKY7sufQtSgz8YDnmExzcvaE=; b=SMpT3AKmbGFIkdADPMK1dSshoJNBld9RzARv4fkKsguUoY1p1domUunaUAC5Npf1/Y xHOtVHfV/nlwqrp8J/0b1xDQgEG/x5m/I72/7cnXDnuX9s0wNp/RlXeDt3B3D+15dYwq D2fBlWZvVWcHVdkDrir1LwZ2pPfDRjACrGrUJEqj0Y1495vSPUmNOi3ENdHLoJNcjTFA 0easVF1LT4eN+pgOrYHznliCi75kDv0FhdHh2XA5NZEwEBns92o+A0MyzS6PHZmWbtqF AapAdi6NA0XtNiBIstQkV3plI7adjoIODTlzEUr/MZDZRY+obiuaVZ0dpLspx1oGpS59 eGtQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1755093603; x=1755698403; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=SPaI90GU3acd30AGeDhuKY7sufQtSgz8YDnmExzcvaE=; b=aCk2LSgjH8/nIqWggnoBlNpFse6lQLEOqmEPY8iceQg2W49C26dF80BagpacxqvWG/ d0wRKxaPOQ151WOl46TEZ5pkSUuBu++zNGIDketn6FM1CLp7Nd5kfJAGFrSGRzdiq28i zmVwFkjjX1rsSOkGSzF0V4rT3pXb8vO60QFuIo4W8IKGHKK1lp0ISc1H79IMY2cqHylY m1QT8zEIx07qxYHrMnwgeJCgryznuY+D5+8/JHEtwi+ER0D46qWcpPx/XUFFKPpsEwr9 milRjsY+oqiKDB/uqKBKjk3/rqzEJTXWsE7UAZiOCWiu/OH+WMwuuXH14WCN93VJKUzV WvdA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yzn7LK8ibbBqqPDAmo2G4T7UyD/YkNIS3UISkg/JbSSvLskpp55 bte985EcXun0zi64MkiAi9l0GGNYfhJAyr+ygdqC0AKO80vE2sodUDZJYmrZF38YEWGGgDLuGJT A6ETR5/Lyhqxf2EE/NGkMtwKbfXjLLE/KuW0wdjipa2QOBwdfDFdno6o3pw== X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncv1VNwT7ePSZRjp15gwA2mVfxyWlPUmjwxyUDWE+qqazAIyk2d+KzID2UCbKPh LTVjMbywQaYXGw4KVi9xFACxivaiclnVEbnXlOigS753unZTK3WNPaT1lMxSE/ptzzxiY5XJ/04 XxQXH6BYcmkPGUp+iGTF6vuE2Fr2zwd6z2p5VkOfxf1FY8hhFxiBSXDUn/lClfcG7iCx/vW+ywi gYlTkk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGP4VIOwy4xeXmZZ4U8SX2tDyjqYAP6Xce7PMyUYi1Pjne6WHLFI4hehKuRkLx6d2gRRl9J9+9jl2fkDqJXu5M= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:3b0c:b0:55b:941d:bde3 with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-55ce01444d6mr1089377e87.10.1755093602766; Wed, 13 Aug 2025 07:00:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20250813015509.GA17097@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: From: Douglas McIlroy Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2025 10:00:03 -0400 X-Gm-Features: Ac12FXwPoLR9oIGr_S3nxOLW7dGWXaj1CICQb9MTzXNRUutyaTgX_Bq5xw0zsBE Message-ID: To: Dave Horsfall Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: JB4F2FRH2BREJUJ7BYAEQARUUQW3MDRH X-Message-ID-Hash: JB4F2FRH2BREJUJ7BYAEQARUUQW3MDRH X-MailFrom: douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: NFS 40th anniversary event List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: I was always sorry that Peter Weinberger's RFS never made it outside Bell Labs. It allowed networking between separately administered systems by mapping UIDs. Doug On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 11:05=E2=80=AFPM Dave Horsfall = wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Aug 2025, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > I think Sun people love it, because the Sun implementation just worked, > > the rest of the world mostly hates it. I learned this when I left Sun > > and got to use other NFS implementations, they sucked. > > I can vouch for Sun's NFS working well, and others' not so much (zeroed > blocks returned etc)... > > > We supported BitKeeper on NFS which meant we had to do lock files on NF= S > > on all platforms. Believe me when I say I know that other NFS > > implementations were a mess. Read all the drama here: > > I'm impressed by the workarounds for obscure kernel bugs :-) > > -- Dave