From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [50.116.15.146]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2CCF2CCFD for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2024 13:53:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C6F434B2; Mon, 30 Sep 2024 21:53:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-xe2b.google.com (mail-vs1-xe2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2b]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8276D434A0 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2024 21:53:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-xe2b.google.com with SMTP id ada2fe7eead31-4a3cb09e28cso206423137.3 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2024 04:53:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dartmouth.edu; s=google1; t=1727697192; x=1728301992; darn=tuhs.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=G88FoWTRIqEMGV237JVFKtaG0MrRoc4AR9xWFlhizA4=; b=CDwwTe2TbNevecukOltNf9HLB9jSC1Nm4EG/7RFQPc/KFcAzoXNk/LSjB6pQKXqzro dSjyMtbDf8aFCzw5TrWtCvgpsSlfRKIGze48tAFfd/4tM0JCQS2AlrH9vUDfLXxbIVei o99MlN6jiirun+67g4Q1ErJBGh/lcTDqXL8UL4/VP9CICvG0JQUd0CefzlYB+4Mo82Vr 84vV4+bxN8chOjoiMSuAo1QZ29H69UdQ73b0etchconICCXVwRuIeSjfmsmlPQ+bXus8 QhERogz9qigtYnBSComgAO6G5Szop7lyW68TQbOYXo4KWEBuds98QX2puTWp1fb+eSzO CgGg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1727697192; x=1728301992; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=G88FoWTRIqEMGV237JVFKtaG0MrRoc4AR9xWFlhizA4=; b=Mvf3UAvNPz8a6DUyUG/ov4sH0AGVs8WBMTEjbx2+CxJFFwbscRr/+c7OKlKZjzY/iu Dep4vWXj7c5gdyCbWe19f33aW8yi1GG6ZlYh5Xya04Qiupgr4U+c6xYmfRmitRZXmtkc s1Dooay3Sd6XijJka054iaLC0CpPo18yJaxywS8kIa5uVDGuiMeNrh3vY4RrX8f6fruh LIp885PBQqKyEoKP94gxQ9Zvovtjl65q5xj1IHykWIPrHhDBTHStD2bJIfmvlQChJF+d yBSV8k/+Y8eAAoFq0O5go4n0CnB9yZol1tuWr18ALFc7PJRE/85UB0BQRLP1NlglyOr3 0/+A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yy+otKcB0i74vVz5730HIxI4IftQaPSghJDTTCAwd1fxqJ39UTq P93z2aGOirgN5fvXDZ2TMrdtUZOo03u+MsYRKx1A2GYb4KwqSaoJLbEaf3eKMXieyOMRqK4aPXO f0Dsq2YnAeVku9HZOr83wZyzE4UEGNjqZ6A7neFO55stv+Z/1NJM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IH+HfZ6ggouEo4S6it83nRmk8xaCeCWLVITk6Lw4RBuUFIbpSCju7WwD71DQXHyBC2hHCx/ZqHr0LLyXMW2S8g= X-Received: by 2002:a67:e907:0:b0:49b:e62d:b5d4 with SMTP id ada2fe7eead31-4a2d7ffd955mr7648932137.21.1727697192561; Mon, 30 Sep 2024 04:53:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Douglas McIlroy Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 07:52:57 -0400 Message-ID: To: Ed Bradford Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000714a25062354d986" Message-ID-Hash: JRUZMPJPLXCGE3FHDF5JJHWAD3CVAMS2 X-Message-ID-Hash: JRUZMPJPLXCGE3FHDF5JJHWAD3CVAMS2 X-MailFrom: douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: TUHS main list X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Fwd: Trove of CSTR's List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000714a25062354d986 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Bell Labs archivist, Ed Eckert, ed.eckert@nokia-bell-labs.com, played a big role in the Labs' Unix50 celebration in 2019. The archives had not only documents, but also memorabilia from the Unix Room. I obtained a 1970s TM from him more recently, probably 2022. An important organizer of Unix50 was martin.carroll@nokia-bell-labs.com. He also was the inside lead on the release of post-v7 Unix source. Doug On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 9:23=E2=80=AFPM Ed Bradford wro= te: > Who is/was the professional archivist and where is/was the collection las= t > seen? > Do you have any ideas? > > Ed > > > On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 9:12=E2=80=AFAM Douglas McIlroy < > douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu> wrote: > >> > I wonder what happened to the amazing library at Murray Hill. >> >> Last I knew, the Bell Labs archives were intact under supervision of a >> professional archivist. Formally speaking, the archives and the library >> were distinct entities. The library, which was open to self service 24 >> hours a day, declined rapidly after the bean counters decreed that it >> should henceforth support itself on rental fees. Departments immediately >> turned to buying books rather than borrowing them. It's very likely that >> this was bad for the Labs' bottom line, but the cost (both monetary and >> intellectual) was not visible as a budgetary line item. >> >> The 24-hour library contributed to one of Ken's programming feats. >> Spurred by a lunchtime remark that it would be nice to have a >> unit-conversion program, Ken announced units(1) the next morning. Right >> from the start, the program knew more than 200 units, thanks to a book K= en >> grabbed from the library in the middle of the night. >> >> Doug >> > > > -- > Advice is judged by results, not by intentions. > Cicero > > --000000000000714a25062354d986 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The Bell Labs archivist,= Ed Eckert,=C2=A0ed.eckert= @nokia-bell-labs.com, played a big role in the Labs' Unix50 celebra= tion in 2019. The archives had not only documents, but also memorabilia fro= m the Unix Room. I obtained a 1970s TM from him more recently, probably 202= 2.

An important organizer of Unix50 wa= s martin.carroll@noki= a-bell-labs.com. He also was the inside lead on the release of post-v7 = Unix source.

Doug

On Sun, Sep 29, 2024= at 9:23=E2=80=AFPM Ed Bradford <egbegb2@gmail.com> wrote:
Who is/was the professional a= rchivist and where is/was the collection last seen?
Do you have any ideas?=

Ed


On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 9:12=E2=80=AFAM Douglas McIlr= oy <d= ouglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> I wonder what happened to the amazing library at Murray Hill.

Last I knew, the Bell Labs archives were i= ntact under supervision of a professional archivist. Formally speaking, the= archives and the library were distinct entities. The library, which was op= en to self service 24 hours a day, declined rapidly after the bean counters= decreed that it should henceforth support itself on rental fees. Departmen= ts immediately turned to buying books rather than borrowing them. It's = very likely that this was bad for the Labs' bottom line, but the cost (= both monetary and intellectual) was not visible as a budgetary line item.

The 24-hour library contributed to one of Ken's= programming feats. Spurred by a lunchtime remark that it would be nice to = have a unit-conversion program, Ken announced units(1) the next morning. Ri= ght from the start, the program knew more than 200 units, thanks to a book = Ken grabbed from the library in the middle of the night.

Doug


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Advice is judged by results, not by intentions.
=C2=A0 Ci= cero

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