Very kind words from Brantley and Clem. It's an interesting notion to regard Unix as gestational until it came out in public talks (1973) and was exported to universities. Maybe I could claim to have laid the groundwork for Unix by causing Multics to be written in PL/I, a language big and sprawling, like the project itself. That unintentionally provided plenty of stimulus for thinking small. Ken was absolutely on his own when he began to fiddle with building a tiny operating system on the GE 645. I heard about it only after the fact. After Multics, I ran interference to keep our once-burned higher management from frowning too much on further operating-system research. I was aware that Ken, Dennis and Rudd were discussing the subject down the hall from my office, but I did not participate in the discussions. At the same time, I was noodling over what would later be called shell pipelines; but I did not come up with the vivid term "pipe" or a halfway workable syntax for another three years. While these actions may have contributed to a welcoming environment for Unix, they in no way "started" it. Doug On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 10:03 AM Brantley Coile wrote: > It all depends on how you define "started." > > Your contributions to it was done while it was still in the maternity ward > of the hospital in which it was birthed. I would argue, at length if need > be, but I suspect it's not needed, that you indeed "started to develop it." > Did only Ken started it. Who was in the room when Ken outlined the file > system? You're finger prints are all over everything from very, very early. > > From a quarter the way into the 21st century, you certainly appear to have > started to develop it. > > Just my humble opinion. my disclaimer is that I've always held your > contributions in very high regard. > > Brantley > > > On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:55 AM, Douglas McIlroy < > douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu> wrote: > > > > > When Rudd, Doug, Ken, Dennis, et al start to develop UNIX > > > > Although I jumped into Unix as soon as it was born, I was not one of > those who "start[ed] to develop it". > > > > Doug > >