From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 19855 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2023 02:23:48 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 15 Mar 2023 02:23:48 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCF141297; Wed, 15 Mar 2023 12:23:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ua1-x932.google.com (mail-ua1-x932.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::932]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2434441296 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2023 12:23:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ua1-x932.google.com with SMTP id g23so8317096uak.7 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 19:23:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dartmouth.edu; s=google1; t=1678847011; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Hx4CNTzqyeLdl+l3wiBsRKi992RLD1GUymv3v68ioPs=; b=SxYj/VxXnnnp2qKOfHD8eJ5V5XNLMr19qzUOAyo1EArz2V8AaZ8pHN7Gcvawvr9w3J BQqv3zhvCwcnRpB/nA+wYaJ5Nh+fs8/N07x8mUbtbJE/Aoivx3VNtAo+fpvSBgutaj83 u66YvtVZucp+Dr7IvpM8G2lDD8aWjwE3H+MjuPdyeNPPl7ZoUI6lvJ6lplDlN3mpvi4S olhoZy5to9QCkg4bq3dmp4KbYJprfQMEWywSPLihf82sdcfLNZLPwmNgjy+pgHb1uPOV gb3irPy7fehfPIsFjUHuxZLy0NdWKqEq9aLUnA55UVxcc6Jno2HGe5daUfGm/X1OI8Tw 2Qng== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1678847011; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Hx4CNTzqyeLdl+l3wiBsRKi992RLD1GUymv3v68ioPs=; b=431IgjnQSdzAB0p1DXDfXBts5Tn/DaANcevFgqzKU2kU61bPAifPNSz9QxdrMKWBpx Uf7TFxnKJpWxwwbWcAxo2mRwDb2jtS2XgH6M126sChFCOwmDzT5Etkooh4vn8P5nZXe8 vjcMAVTwA1zVVogG7eSP70hbGXirFxKenPx3iHndwBXTnFtVEKUocP8P+1fsgKg4y1Tp jWMTGePiieF5sIcmv7czhz1U68dubUusK6Ym78klO4OhF96ZiEMr+rX8i2XC8izzilY8 b3b8I4CerqUpAh8l6aHStbuL5yihBDnlmalwHGIlGgEsidgnIeniqjzkZa+fQdjUIBDx cH5Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKU0tb/zBIMJfcK9XX38BBWmo7NGtxqWOIg0xE/9x88iA9D9mM03 0ChQCOEHMGf25vz2t7BqWE/mg02sx/D13q7rS5sIUjQeZaoEosyfc/Y= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set+2qvaXzk2OGwCr4xKltnwX4sBvpWAeHuOMYffs7mul9hGavu9Dezd25IeS+1lGkNOxvpv9Ty2AWRAMxcQaWiQ= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:4507:0:b0:42d:5ea6:bd58 with SMTP id s7-20020a1f4507000000b0042d5ea6bd58mr15548716vka.3.1678847011644; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 19:23:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Douglas McIlroy Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 22:23:15 -0400 Message-ID: To: TUHS main list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-ID-Hash: OOF6WSLYQX7DO2BP2KJCEFHUGQINFERM X-Message-ID-Hash: OOF6WSLYQX7DO2BP2KJCEFHUGQINFERM X-MailFrom: douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: [TUHS]: C dialects List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: > In hindsight Algol68 may have been the last committee designed > language that was good. The committee itself fractured over the design. Dissenters who thought it was far too complex upped stakes and formed WG2.3, which pointedly concentrated on program design, not language. Doug