[TUHS] ACM opens up much of its archives

[TUHS] ACM opens up much of its archives

[Douglas McIlroy]

>> If you’re a *current* member of these societies then you should have good access to journal content.

>I believe this is true for ACM, but for IEEE not so much. You have to pay for a digital library membership _in addition to_ your standard membership

ACM is the same.  At $99/year membership is a bargain by ordinary
professional society standards. But they charge an additional $99 for
access to 21st-century Digital Library.content.

Doug

[TUHS] Re: ACM opens up much of its archives

[Dan Cross]

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On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 4:40 PM Douglas McIlroy <
douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> >> If you’re a *current* member of these societies then you should have
> good access to journal content.
>
> >I believe this is true for ACM, but for IEEE not so much. You have to pay
> for a digital library membership _in addition to_ your standard membership
>
> ACM is the same.  At $99/year membership is a bargain by ordinary
> professional society standards. But they charge an additional $99 for
> access to 21st-century Digital Library.content.
>

Sigh. I stand corrected. Thanks, Doug.

        - Dan C.

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[TUHS] Re: ACM opens up much of its archives

[Clem Cole]

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Awe are a little drifting from core UNIX but FWIW:  With the noise made
about the ACM DL is more freely available and the 'advertisement' they sent
saying the earliest UNIX paper was now there for anyone to examine (from
the 1973 SOSP), I just tried to download both without signing in and with
-- I got the same result.   You get the abstract - not the paper which was
a tad disappointing.  FWIW: from the SOSP was Jerry Popek's famous paper on
requirements for VM -- same result.

I understand the problem, (USENIX also has the same one) but it seems like
if they are going to scan things, scan all of it, not just the abstract.
ᐧ

On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 4:40 PM Douglas McIlroy <
douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> >> If you’re a *current* member of these societies then you should have
> good access to journal content.
>
> >I believe this is true for ACM, but for IEEE not so much. You have to pay
> for a digital library membership _in addition to_ your standard membership
>
> ACM is the same.  At $99/year membership is a bargain by ordinary
> professional society standards. But they charge an additional $99 for
> access to 21st-century Digital Library.content.
>
> Doug
>

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[TUHS] Re: ACM opens up much of its archives

[Charles H Sauer (he/him)]

It is disappointing that the SOSP versions are not available, but I 
suspect the real problem here is publication protocol at the time. It 
was often the case that when conference papers were headed for CACM the 
conferences only published the abstracts in the proceedings.

I long abandoned my paper archives that might have included these, so I 
don't know for sure whether the paper proceedings would have had the 
full papers or not.

However, for both the UNIX & Popek/Goldberg papers, the full CACM 
versions do seem to be freely available, with the expected annotation 
"This is a revised version of a paper presented at the Fourth
ACM Symposium on Operating Systems Principles, IBM Thomas
J. Watson Research Center, Yorktown Heights, New York, October
15-17, 1973."

https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/361011.361061
https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/361011.361073

On 5/26/2022 3:53 PM, Clem Cole wrote:
> Awe are a little drifting from core UNIX but FWIW:  With the noise made 
> about the ACM DL is more freely available and the 'advertisement' they 
> sent saying the earliest UNIX paper was now there for anyone to examine 
> (from the 1973 SOSP), I just tried to download both without signing in 
> and with -- I got the same result.   You get the abstract - not the 
> paper which was a tad disappointing.  FWIW: from the SOSP was Jerry 
> Popek's famous paper on requirements for VM -- same result.
> 
> I understand the problem, (USENIX also has the same one) but it seems 
> like if they are going to scan things, scan all of it, not just the 
> abstract.
> ᐧ
> 
> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 4:40 PM Douglas McIlroy 
> <douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu <mailto:douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu>> 
> wrote:
> 
>      >> If you’re a *current* member of these societies then you should
>     have good access to journal content.
> 
>      >I believe this is true for ACM, but for IEEE not so much. You have
>     to pay for a digital library membership _in addition to_ your
>     standard membership
> 
>     ACM is the same.  At $99/year membership is a bargain by ordinary
>     professional society standards. But they charge an additional $99 for
>     access to 21st-century Digital Library.content.
> 
>     Doug
> 

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[TUHS] ACM opens up much of its archives

[arnold]

https://associationsnow.com/2022/05/the-way-things-were-why-open-access-to-the-a
cm-digital-library-matters/