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* [TUHS] Robert Morris's UUCP
@ 2025-01-16 16:04 Douglas McIlroy
  2025-01-16 16:07 ` [TUHS] " arnold
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From: Douglas McIlroy @ 2025-01-16 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: TUHS main list

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> I often repeat a throwaway sentence that UUCP was Lesk,
> building a bug fix distribution mechanism.

> Am I completely wrong? I am sure Mike said this to me mid 80s.

That was an important motivating factor, but Mike also had an
unerring anticipatory sense of public "need".  Thus his programs
spread like wildfire despite their bugs. UUCP itself is the premier
example. Its popularity impelled its inclusion in v7 despite its
woeful disregard for security.

> Does anyone have [Robert Morris's UUCP CSTR]? Doug?

Not I.

Doug

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* [TUHS] Re: Robert Morris's UUCP
  2025-01-16 16:04 [TUHS] Robert Morris's UUCP Douglas McIlroy
@ 2025-01-16 16:07 ` arnold
  2025-01-16 19:29 ` Marc Donner
  2025-01-17  1:35 ` Aaron
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: arnold @ 2025-01-16 16:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs, douglas.mcilroy

Douglas McIlroy <douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> > I often repeat a throwaway sentence that UUCP was Lesk,
> > building a bug fix distribution mechanism.
>
> > Am I completely wrong? I am sure Mike said this to me mid 80s.
>
> That was an important motivating factor, but Mike also had an
> unerring anticipatory sense of public "need".  Thus his programs
> spread like wildfire despite their bugs. UUCP itself is the premier
> example. Its popularity impelled its inclusion in v7 despite its
> woeful disregard for security.
>
> > Does anyone have [Robert Morris's UUCP CSTR]? Doug?
>
> Not I.

I have just sent him an email directly asking if he
has a copy.  If anything comes of it I'll send it on.

Thanks,

Arnold

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* [TUHS] Re: Robert Morris's UUCP
  2025-01-16 16:04 [TUHS] Robert Morris's UUCP Douglas McIlroy
  2025-01-16 16:07 ` [TUHS] " arnold
@ 2025-01-16 19:29 ` Marc Donner
  2025-01-16 20:53   ` Alexander Schreiber
  2025-01-17  1:35 ` Aaron
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Marc Donner @ 2025-01-16 19:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Douglas McIlroy; +Cc: TUHS main list

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Michael has explained his authorship of UUCP as a stop gap.  The networking
team was building the real solution and it was due in three weeks.  So he
wrote UUCP to fill in until the official solution arrived.

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On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 11:05 AM Douglas McIlroy <
douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> > I often repeat a throwaway sentence that UUCP was Lesk,
> > building a bug fix distribution mechanism.
>
> > Am I completely wrong? I am sure Mike said this to me mid 80s.
>
> That was an important motivating factor, but Mike also had an
> unerring anticipatory sense of public "need".  Thus his programs
> spread like wildfire despite their bugs. UUCP itself is the premier
> example. Its popularity impelled its inclusion in v7 despite its
> woeful disregard for security.
>
> > Does anyone have [Robert Morris's UUCP CSTR]? Doug?
>
> Not I.
>
> Doug
>

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* [TUHS] Re: Robert Morris's UUCP
  2025-01-16 19:29 ` Marc Donner
@ 2025-01-16 20:53   ` Alexander Schreiber
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Alexander Schreiber @ 2025-01-16 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marc Donner; +Cc: Douglas McIlroy, TUHS main list

On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 02:29:23PM -0500, Marc Donner wrote:
> Michael has explained his authorship of UUCP as a stop gap.  The networking
> team was building the real solution and it was due in three weeks.  So he
> wrote UUCP to fill in until the official solution arrived.

And it's still around many, many years later, as is typical for "this is
just a temporary solution" - I'm still getting my mail via UUCP these
days (although it's UUCP-over-VPN-over-IP).

Kind regards,
           Alex.
-- 
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and
 looks like work."                                      -- Thomas A. Edison

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* [TUHS] Re: Robert Morris's UUCP
  2025-01-16 16:04 [TUHS] Robert Morris's UUCP Douglas McIlroy
  2025-01-16 16:07 ` [TUHS] " arnold
  2025-01-16 19:29 ` Marc Donner
@ 2025-01-17  1:35 ` Aaron
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Aaron @ 2025-01-17  1:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Douglas McIlroy; +Cc: TUHS main list

Mike was tired of the constant calls to redistribute one of his highly popular software features or fixes, so he wrote uucp to ease the distribution of.his and others’ on the sixth floor. I then added a self-serve layer that I used to upgrade and test all the pass-through packages USG made no changes to that were not 

Aaron 


> On Jan 16, 2025, at 11:15 AM, Douglas McIlroy <douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> 
> I.

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* [TUHS] Robert Morris's UUCP
@ 2025-01-15 15:31 arnold
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: arnold @ 2025-01-15 15:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs

The Reeds paper mentions that Robert Morris rewrote UUCP.
Did that ever see the light of day anywhere? V9? V10?

Just wondering.

Arnold

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