From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 19946 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2022 19:23:11 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 26 Nov 2022 19:23:11 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408A04170C; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 05:22:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vk1-f175.google.com (mail-vk1-f175.google.com [209.85.221.175]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 290464025D for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 05:22:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vk1-f175.google.com with SMTP id j24so3528584vkk.0 for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2022 11:22:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dartmouth.edu; s=google1; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=UQTpFMWeg5KRbWgt36d7f3BKEjXmkdIgPqdI6Kxo9qY=; b=hFDfTP5MEWjJVSdDz5QT1HSd+jDrCFMZ30hm1GrZkCQuYv7z9tluw4lOMBInouUD+B wpq7nteiDaubBLeWfvqCeK8E+Ae9Mg8zDk8QDqXHhfr4eEWcogPSOsOP2ekmFOEKfAPt 1QRoatK0Fi+6l6qlSO1hyYwqyqXwq7ddfQ9Fzi6m7pgwPH/J7RViaAa8AF1QwGzJ1wPd PeVEKwQRyMmWAEWa0nt9+OxBnI38R4qCIMqYjmyS95hFluUCW0pFbN62W2n8kZpKhNww PgNVjkZN0oi2AT+VuOyWD0caRmWHOk5Dz1N3Ic6xudQTpwXDCTBYE+FL6PzcUhrvzL/J L35w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=UQTpFMWeg5KRbWgt36d7f3BKEjXmkdIgPqdI6Kxo9qY=; b=4/fuPgbmSb4d5rymG3itgiZgYu91INMfCVJ5X9nGP3UckXd11pplVlS2ujV0F64BGj lxw5Xfg2qGfDUNSmFDjbtoLeCGKzBNojof/GkrggEBB1Ii4dB4PPFtjg0+QIMFtZxW1i EWYPNF2hS04R9f0Tb04rPBffjHHSnzuXYuq+WjscUADrL08nMkzA+Rt808AXIB8SF0BI XmsHS4B6beRvxP7+i6X0Xo/ouWCEGYpUQqvFGgQY1dGCQdQgkzlj90CjjGZ+/r4SLuPE ktruilJxQvAqH23XVlg/psBf9DUAj5Q790XTX3Vhcg2LiD9o2Fsdpl/bQmlTgr2VNOV7 UjZQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5plSBDnnbP95hCzzUYyFEZwQZqHlNIS+pTJjjXRYiu2h3J+5x3Ol hDIVTvL4FVt5KcR67fjQcglFZ6pyMznXdL5OWCulrQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf76y3wulubKuhfGX/Rc8aRgYc3PkffW1gDa9ZkSIoEhBk7xl6AoI2imq6B2Y1hIiDzDiXEMfko74c/MvqXCjU4= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:5d04:0:b0:3b8:7d0e:630e with SMTP id r4-20020a1f5d04000000b003b87d0e630emr17844227vkb.10.1669490503212; Sat, 26 Nov 2022 11:21:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8f278bf8-de57-4e77-a3b8-d007d7c3a446@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8f278bf8-de57-4e77-a3b8-d007d7c3a446@app.fastmail.com> From: Douglas McIlroy Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2022 14:21:27 -0500 Message-ID: To: Seth Morabito Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: FZ3LXK3JO5CAHUIOTPDRNHMTP2JDCAZN X-Message-ID-Hash: FZ3LXK3JO5CAHUIOTPDRNHMTP2JDCAZN X-MailFrom: douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Reaction to the 3B2 at Bell Labs List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: All I can say is that the only 3B2 I can remember was in the Living Computer Museum in Seattle. Doug On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 1:47 PM Seth Morabito wrote: > > Hello all, > > I'm giving a presentation on the AT&T 3B2 at a local makerspace next mont= h, and while I've been preparing the talk I became curious about an aspect = that I don't know has been discussed elsewhere. > > I'm well aware that the 3B2 was something of a market failure with not mu= ch penetration into the wider commercial UNIX space, but I'm very curious t= o know more about what the reaction was at Bell Labs. When AT&T entered the= computer hardware market after the 1984 breakup, I get the impression that= there wasn't very much interest in any of it at Bell Labs, is that true? > > Can anyone recall what the general mood was regarding the 3B2 (and the 73= 00 and the 6300, I suppose!) > > -Seth > -- > Seth Morabito > Poulsbo, WA > web@loomcom.com