From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 12821 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2023 03:28:15 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 14 Mar 2023 03:28:15 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B66141619; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 13:28:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-yb1-f182.google.com (mail-yb1-f182.google.com [209.85.219.182]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBA9141618 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 13:28:05 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-yb1-f182.google.com with SMTP id e194so14092167ybf.1 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2023 20:28:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1678764485; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=0Bnijd9ToC2VhTr9/sU6ByPmnK6mpMFB7+9HCWgrcEE=; b=N/PplcFRBAygai5B1R860iHxq+zcx0gL/k/tVsdLnuho9gG4eeDqZc3rzefZ9TCDAC Ncw0B3BB4VkSHfrKxjRVEZB/7Wo4pH9u+X1+vzbwDAHU/fB9e9+SSYujn4iZv73xFrX5 3PPxRbNjpKUagxK8BPzkbmezZgWtBkpFGrZm8FcxEVB8N5stOU0lL7o27iziHLmgvt6W KJPqpt+68w9M1gjn84jus9KWNHVzZK/ZgJmGRZRvXU1JzP4xwnahDGiMyBdcFpDv0hxG RpbIqx0kgQDlXOSnyuHCfcSXmB4wP+TNqWPEurBji2sz0PKrg+6Bsepdv4CB1/1XqYD/ vJvg== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKVhOeB1OjFTu16EOHmYs2XW+q17bZIrC2hPgEjQxTEstTvoKaIR x1O7H2ypBPple5CKC8Pgql1CKrbOS07VTTYkQV4gEwnGh+VlcX/G X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set+aYhg0Irh0LFbMbBmRGMTK6gOM6d7YZlS3+Q4yMd2rHnR8w4nxUU3c+G2VEnLcvnBlWaT4KP+Xm2DjnLXdvbk= X-Received: by 2002:a5b:dcf:0:b0:b09:6f3d:ea1f with SMTP id t15-20020a5b0dcf000000b00b096f3dea1fmr18378959ybr.4.1678764484892; Mon, 13 Mar 2023 20:28:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <78FE1F5F-7408-4BB0-8D2E-62AA00465774@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: From: Rik Schneider Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 20:27:53 -0700 Message-ID: To: "tuhs@tuhs.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c8b03205f6d3d07d" Message-ID-Hash: EFSEOVUKPE3ECGTNGMOTJMXS6SDRDO6O X-Message-ID-Hash: EFSEOVUKPE3ECGTNGMOTJMXS6SDRDO6O X-MailFrom: rik@deranged.schneider.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: virtual consoles / Alt-Fx List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000c8b03205f6d3d07d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 8:30=E2=80=AFAM Warner Losh wrote: > > > Ditto for the 386BSD BSD/386 line of code. I think they were added in th= e > patch-kit phase, not the original Jolitz code phase. FreeBSD 1.0 Beta had > them in 1993 for sure, as did NetBSD of the time. > > I have a memory of them on 0.98pl13 on Linux as well, but that version > sticks in my head as a proxy for anything between 0.96 (the first one I > tried) and 0.99 (the last before 1.x Linux). This would be approximately > 1992 or 1993. > > I've not done the deep-dive into the ancient code bases to see if I can > suss out when they arrived. > > Virtual consoles were added to Linux in Version 0.12. They may have been available in 386BSD and FreeBSD 1.0 but it looks like they were not configured by default until FreeBSD 1.1. -- Rik > --000000000000c8b03205f6d3d07d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 8:30= =E2=80=AFAM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.co= m> wrote:


Ditto for the 386BSD BSD/386 line of=C2=A0 code. I think t= hey were added in the patch-kit phase, not the original Jolitz code phase. = FreeBSD 1.0 Beta had them in 1993 for sure, as did NetBSD of the time.

I have a memory of them on 0.98pl13 on Linux as well, = but that version sticks in my head as a proxy for anything between 0.96 (th= e first one I tried) and 0.99 (the last before 1.x Linux). This would be ap= proximately 1992 or 1993.

I've not done the de= ep-dive into the ancient code bases to see if I can suss out when they arri= ved.
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Virtual cons= oles were added to Linux in Version 0.12.=C2=A0 They may have been availabl= e in 386BSD and FreeBSD 1.0 but it looks like they were not configured by d= efault until FreeBSD 1.1.

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Rik
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