From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 5835 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2023 03:40:14 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 23 Jan 2023 03:40:14 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8501C425BB; Mon, 23 Jan 2023 13:40:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-oa1-f41.google.com (mail-oa1-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42755425B6 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2023 13:40:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-oa1-f41.google.com with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-142b72a728fso12625575fac.9 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 19:40:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=algebras-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=4/Ii/9/dB5MtZ6RpYBSg61mCwEYBowIjYFvaZwbRErQ=; b=dvnDYbuT6zEesk4eb1kSE/e9vTVKyxcyPbui63xjImyJqN4T4MQknQ5om/JgZjrPTe gyu7r95tcxlmvGjF94wraDRHRILf7Yq+ux5TgTMf/Zjfy4XBmsxKhUuEUAXGq7LxxZwW A4QqNGAVnY7nALO+4WWIfJ3ak/I8uspimB35nlG85u2PebHxbMcQk05/YPtXNZwmjikU cOnP3RqDxmhEvx4qLvjDIgczobG/LaZO8D+MCz6l3cx1n0ie8q6oVuB0DxBEhaaj4VQt K8Q8g0KgaF5xsNANZAvzRyGjCVyK76t+gIoyISTHGDrOb06U86sGoCcdFwjhrbGKjtFW TAmQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=4/Ii/9/dB5MtZ6RpYBSg61mCwEYBowIjYFvaZwbRErQ=; b=jkIisNMMuDwLqxHcC6Bm0zl5X364WpAgUXYwsyLmYJ/FgHvFV16Z9uRChvEMLj8/J/ 07z9kmygc8sQcTU5CZdYDvrgIUVtmxU/9PjC8Y/H0UzrG6DuCQjHvzR0mbZ6Jg43AlyY iLltvMvdTX3FB+dT2A3lBVg/7adF9kB+de652resWbFtVibQwFx9ahmfOiPQ6K0X2eko FG3JJpBZTYqFDRaupUpgvtXCSv+iP3Y5WUw4TPIgKEltwSqLw3C0dzZjGmnlW+EDpy2R uRGOPk1GFMq9sHqgxSvYn5sMBcaj/smwXsze/CjsNwCKh21rG9Bm4vQGGw/HsX7vXm8H uiNQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kp1B4zdgpzUyZaCLH50F+YjEm68kVRHTZBlE0h+2tvvu7AnWdtZ cUlMhZL+qHVmkjAKI+wv0zxPVe44xouAlt+dZavRfbdgFbQMP9Zk X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXvj01YO7mfPzijRacj6eueUgRad4Jvkem8GeEr50i0cqnU2NW0K6c6RwX+SUGEvzmhru2qfAslCzQI0zfV5Mhw= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:d3ce:b0:15f:afc0:12ed with SMTP id l14-20020a056870d3ce00b0015fafc012edmr985863oag.285.1674445143561; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 19:39:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: George Michaelson Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 13:38:52 +1000 Message-ID: To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: NJPQCNG6C3B5CALKSPY2ZLEFCSHBUJ5D X-Message-ID-Hash: NJPQCNG6C3B5CALKSPY2ZLEFCSHBUJ5D X-MailFrom: ggm@algebras.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: interesting case of not getting the point: dc on a mac List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: ggm@GGM-802602 ~ % uname && dc --version |egrep git\|dc Darwin dc 4.0.2 Report bugs at: https://git.yzena.com/gavin/bc ggm@GGM-802602 ~ % finley% uname && dc --version |egrep git\|dc FreeBSD dc 5.2.2 Report bugs at: https://git.yzena.com/gavin/bc finley% On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 1:33 PM Steve Nickolas wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Jan 2023, Dave Horsfall wrote: > > > On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, Steve Nickolas wrote: > > > >> I think there was one particular dc clone...guy whose name started wit= h > >> a G? and his version did that. > > > > On my ancient MacBook Pro (13-inch, mid 2010, High Sierra 10.13.6): > > > > mackie:~ dave$ dc > > (^D) > > mackie:~ dave$ dc -V > > dc (GNU bc 1.06) 1.3 > > > > On my ancient FreeBSD server: > > > > aneurin% dc > > (^D) > > aneurin% dc -V > > dc (BSD bc) 1.3-FreeBSD > > > > Nil prompt in both cases. > > > >> Most Linux versions use GNU's which Does The Right Thing=C2=AE=E2=84= =A2=C2=A9. > > > > Perhaps so, but I try to avoid using Penguin/OS and GNU... I don't lik= e > > its licence conditions ("free" it ain't), and I would rather write my o= wn > > libraries than be constrained by Stallman's conditions. > > > > -- Dave > > I've dealt with fanboys telling me how to do GPL on my own stuff, and it > left a sore taste in my mouth. I don't care about the stuff I *use*, but > it did leave me very negative about the GPL itself, and if it seems that > some of the OS-building stuff I've been talking about here and elsewhere > has anything to do with a grudge against GNU,...well...it does. > > Still, GNU does seem to have more respect for precedent than a lot of > johnny-come-lately coders trying to reimplement stuff themselves. > > -uso.