From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 6064 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2023 03:41:55 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 23 Jan 2023 03:41:55 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C2E425CC; Mon, 23 Jan 2023 13:41:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-oi1-f178.google.com (mail-oi1-f178.google.com [209.85.167.178]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FD6C425C6 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2023 13:41:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-oi1-f178.google.com with SMTP id s66so9315431oib.7 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 19:41:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=algebras-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=xq4BfhlPI+heBJd0f0CSAuCLv+Obm040BPDlVlXIarM=; b=w4GRLLAVb3J79fJXmFlU2ApwVNe5pKd5uy4CUMHfFVY8taEoXFBybFlEkyU7/M5iBQ F5Rs6j8kNANyDIdp2GXEOgVt6tMWhHMjNMK2wDKw+JcP4P7PMms03pbv/m+KAH3kihfw nenNuvQzb/A3nvFCEjIqwFxfbSg+HKt8gPb7u7yj/SqOfOzBAMATu4rRWC5wgLVq8xot fXpMULlg8MZuB1kXHo/q64Bngfa/E4Xfq7CKaZemkogmwU0lBk7dQ8t3H6YiXnSTPgK3 CGiX6N59Qvkd5PvGCTqDL1MacpVtitjJ2F1MVXnW5AQyqMUpGnDsE04Iw78CfxoW0NPk rPkA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=xq4BfhlPI+heBJd0f0CSAuCLv+Obm040BPDlVlXIarM=; b=52Uzv7Z5B8Av22g/C6Bm4jR6mVm2uK43EB3mC6mwJ5jLBY1MLT3EifvQgLfZIzl/57 FC0VYcxYLoPYAaRxdXlcKii3TNEnXBWPeEthjTcYxFcgCj8A0bRkjhf/m7npT6CRbzPr kykY9+FlrKUQrb5BhKKXpFsPj7djCAh7tJ1jSQYjczqy3OaLfQIvm2lOogNaPnI2xgac zaVB9Gb4wUMMiS8pWzmhQQtDjN9He+7zeVXQ38ldO4LKjknltimPzP6xekZKVCnh8q48 82RBIkZ1WoBxI/S/KIJzI+DoNsw/gSNtxp9X1aDMpJX8I651iwnK2iXVvL8tQNP/5h+M HuSw== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kp85EroSOMyQoAqvjEI831XBPyZaQYEBt6h5UBHpqaE5Gks82+J 5aaNHwO7toildxERc7b4GwY9H0F+jOksMTZOpJXa2c4UN29N4Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXv+7mVFRedr4/2tQJNrjW21isY4p6pggjnxAu4berE5lFGky9O9j214ETZDVtPjyPezck0ov/e6kVQB2OFtD/Y= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:1801:b0:35b:451d:629e with SMTP id bh1-20020a056808180100b0035b451d629emr824299oib.150.1674445246530; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 19:40:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: George Michaelson Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 13:40:35 +1000 Message-ID: To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: ALJ6E3KEHLAU2GSPPHER7IIWQH3FJOYN X-Message-ID-Hash: ALJ6E3KEHLAU2GSPPHER7IIWQH3FJOYN X-MailFrom: ggm@algebras.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: interesting case of not getting the point: dc on a mac List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: I should also also add, Mac has >>> as Rob noted. FreeBSD doesn't -G On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 1:39 PM George Michaelson wrote: > > I should add both were /usr/bin/dc and I do NOT install into system > owned paths on these hosts. (for me Homebrew installs in /opt and > FreeBSD pkg installs in /usr/local) > > -G > > On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 1:38 PM George Michaelson wrot= e: > > > > ggm@GGM-802602 ~ % uname && dc --version |egrep git\|dc > > Darwin > > dc 4.0.2 > > Report bugs at: https://git.yzena.com/gavin/bc > > ggm@GGM-802602 ~ % > > > > finley% uname && dc --version |egrep git\|dc > > FreeBSD > > dc 5.2.2 > > Report bugs at: https://git.yzena.com/gavin/bc > > finley% > > > > On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 1:33 PM Steve Nickolas wrot= e: > > > > > > On Mon, 23 Jan 2023, Dave Horsfall wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, Steve Nickolas wrote: > > > > > > > >> I think there was one particular dc clone...guy whose name started= with > > > >> a G? and his version did that. > > > > > > > > On my ancient MacBook Pro (13-inch, mid 2010, High Sierra 10.13.6): > > > > > > > > mackie:~ dave$ dc > > > > (^D) > > > > mackie:~ dave$ dc -V > > > > dc (GNU bc 1.06) 1.3 > > > > > > > > On my ancient FreeBSD server: > > > > > > > > aneurin% dc > > > > (^D) > > > > aneurin% dc -V > > > > dc (BSD bc) 1.3-FreeBSD > > > > > > > > Nil prompt in both cases. > > > > > > > >> Most Linux versions use GNU's which Does The Right Thing=C2=AE=E2= =84=A2=C2=A9. > > > > > > > > Perhaps so, but I try to avoid using Penguin/OS and GNU... I don't= like > > > > its licence conditions ("free" it ain't), and I would rather write = my own > > > > libraries than be constrained by Stallman's conditions. > > > > > > > > -- Dave > > > > > > I've dealt with fanboys telling me how to do GPL on my own stuff, and= it > > > left a sore taste in my mouth. I don't care about the stuff I *use*,= but > > > it did leave me very negative about the GPL itself, and if it seems t= hat > > > some of the OS-building stuff I've been talking about here and elsewh= ere > > > has anything to do with a grudge against GNU,...well...it does. > > > > > > Still, GNU does seem to have more respect for precedent than a lot of > > > johnny-come-lately coders trying to reimplement stuff themselves. > > > > > > -uso.