From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 22136 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2021 05:53:01 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 27 Jan 2021 05:53:01 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id F38C79B934; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:52:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B4D9B720; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:52:44 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=algebras-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@algebras-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="zg3LFDbe"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9A43D9B720; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:52:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pl1-f176.google.com (mail-pl1-f176.google.com [209.85.214.176]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 471E69B715 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:52:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pl1-f176.google.com with SMTP id e9so442191plh.3 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 21:52:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=algebras-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=d/46M7BC3GIErHno64VBWq7cEpIEkUbKRpY7w5lnjA0=; b=zg3LFDbeak7O8de+zZgsL7oYG9Ub4j0jiWqeLS4fmHNYVlS8HgxSM1mZvgm+c9OFpx pwajryE8JSjBVRB3BnmQLGkUCZAooOEXkKCUP+vVzscMbBuvxN/t+gjkSPaGPLRQ0EfM 6ePb5B76WOaiWtWynooNxaUT1cfCrmdi6oU5ExRzkxGoU8+kKD5Aa7NAve36dqtsv09I iksR1s+hwhW68RoOscVQagEHkYRCpxUyqEEY1a2Fd0d9d5oncj+fWM3Iu3bKx63+tfKu JQB38mIty3pYFYXIuuahhEThk4AiYoySaF19Vr+ny2TU0pr6jT9ILq6SuSR5GuDGvGs/ m4Fw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=d/46M7BC3GIErHno64VBWq7cEpIEkUbKRpY7w5lnjA0=; b=DqCG24s6vsEDO3i0SePRnzF8slbyvC68j74Jj1jzUjOQ3u5c2D8XgYm4t4Ch90FxlK MMDhYNjWgWofzzh8JvzIra9YICEQXHMIQXgGBW4Bcgz34y68iEXFjTa/P8BgeEJNWQut UF1Fp4eWyKNYPm+NVDShGAOklboeF3htHlUmmyIdXPpOGYbE87KbEvyC8qtk6RYWX8I5 McLznM2J00ynezR48BkN8ls+ybTrkmEyMDakPH7txEcr4Cy3YM3qdsq9XDsXMQoMTa02 qU3OWSwB8NdNdaVZ6u+Q6y0FuKvQ0pFa8ub2RUkeB0cH7ZRGbGvRwuZRsZtOkqMvXiOo EQig== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53002U/61MKb4iZ9f8Jn+wnk0N3ozrkY/x4u3KxfVZoMp7H3tEAp 5LFgpXIYb227YkmYr5qR20ckQpR0A2FoHUAaMeUXVqji3UQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwm3G5tRjdRZ31djSyyIuY3bDxUlmfzRI3FrCgaDAnjxSBTJqOMm0Ra4W5BHZZZ987UcCdmlem442UHReQlUBw= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:e396:: with SMTP id b22mr3809682pjz.155.1611726760698; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 21:52:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210124183653.GD21030@mcvoy.com> <202101242045.10OKjDvA964774@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20210124211100.GI21030@mcvoy.com> <202101242114.10OLEYGk966708@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20210124212525.GJ21030@mcvoy.com> <202101242333.10ONXjcI974038@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <202101250021.10P0L3Z2976588@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <6557f782-ecb1-6476-1eda-e23f30f9bbea@bitsavers.org> <202101260138.10Q1ceo21049597@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <202101270354.10R3s8Z01128207@darkstar.fourwinds.com> In-Reply-To: From: George Michaelson Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:52:29 +1000 Message-ID: To: Jon Steinhart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] tangential unix question: whatever happened to NeWS? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Also to this, I think much was lost, when the Andrews X system lost impetus. The filesystem lived on (they always do) but somehow, people lost interest in WYSIWYG built around the X fonts, and Troff. I rather liked it, used it heavily. I produced the university Phonebook for a while in it, and adjunct scripts. (EQN for some things) There was a rather nice animation tool, somebody obviously either was, or was dating a ballet major at the uni, and decided to code something pretty: the worked example was very dance-oriented. (I know this is a layer "up" from X itself, but it goes to what might have been, if the critical mass had been there)