From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 10693 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2023 04:03:06 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 1 Mar 2023 04:03:06 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295EE43317; Wed, 1 Mar 2023 14:03:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-oi1-x233.google.com (mail-oi1-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::233]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D59443316 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2023 14:02:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-oi1-x233.google.com with SMTP id r40so8789093oiw.0 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2023 20:02:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=algebras-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; t=1677643375; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=wwoOZONJAyQ8fpyyHk7pdrOCJeJY7DjO7Qwb8DAuYGw=; b=CadzemeLpW8f5Wikc36SsxoYfVYdhsPmUFYnJHTTemfP/q1+dZcECDd/OYGUjTe4Z6 woHz2Xru/rn1Ycyhv5IGWwF55cjgg/ayoIfTyIGqlT6eWKVnvopqvaDcLgmExqKJypzY h78DwzA66HI+KKBxt+rcQtPj/qtuQgYbYz1IEVlWKHFUya0vXvUnkcCvgyK9CHfc1M+o paGS2pHelwR3v5vaSHtekpi7/4LZKAE8xsqrjV2eTztXPhVQJpvtT8wEcBods+12ETv9 aZchIfZawq119/YNbOwK8T9kEWY81ZV7F0dXDcZoQrZILQVD0o1R32qtq1HwqpECAEpk Ga0Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1677643375; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=wwoOZONJAyQ8fpyyHk7pdrOCJeJY7DjO7Qwb8DAuYGw=; b=ANUeGwiI8OJukfnhnbZCxVJliXoEjYy3i1phgQx9xP9L+9kEKKDf/4YYpKoN96HWAZ C7SgOm1/WjZf2LgByQ//P2m+/ofPM/EEGIB0jJ4oCsecoo5Tb1+Vj3BJbXMgnF04UpxN ohmjrtVk/FhJRbENeF4VrzrSyaXPzYnVw2PwmTYOYO/vCBxU0f8Qpk+j83zVUoKtmqMT /gDwCEfNcGHpyyH1idt25TVLkeLkOqDpYpN76cmoUNi07fcF/TDu4AjXexW5BHWd+vyX rVXP0RNfqdAmkwIlKqzDj3iNEZ0NjqxwvNFqycZKFw6S8Bx8RlUqSG/8nfb2pc9wx9CM kfOg== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKVMFcUcFcUkXPTAexj/OEETjdnJbSiPwb8fzFDuwqhdpaJW17qZ DnpVTOxi88BKOw36WCny/mo0p+fTFplNHiXRoZ/URw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set8ada2qEL6GpkImZzA84MrFWLwstxWWQNccrgsFTNF9u5ul70O8YsGr4QIg68DZ6RWg+z/SH1RLT6wmV+vF25o= X-Received: by 2002:a54:410d:0:b0:383:b8e4:aab7 with SMTP id l13-20020a54410d000000b00383b8e4aab7mr1735730oic.10.1677643375422; Tue, 28 Feb 2023 20:02:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1F9F6472-6F10-4E5D-81A4-BC0C6EB1F5BE@technologists.com> In-Reply-To: <1F9F6472-6F10-4E5D-81A4-BC0C6EB1F5BE@technologists.com> From: George Michaelson Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 14:02:44 +1000 Message-ID: To: "Charles H. Sauer" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: VYVCLGGBNUATMCADTX7FI6GV7YQBRZ4N X-Message-ID-Hash: VYVCLGGBNUATMCADTX7FI6GV7YQBRZ4N X-MailFrom: ggm@algebras.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: IBM RT/PC compilers [was Re: Any Bell 8-bit UNIX Efforts? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: I used BSD/RT and I don't recall anything that good and my C is pretty terrible: if there were biblical error codes I would have expected to tickle them. On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 1:02=E2=80=AFPM Charles H. Sauer wrote: > > > > On Feb 28, 2023, at 8:35 PM, Dan Cross wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 9:07=E2=80=AFPM Ronald Natalie wrote: > > [snip] > At least it didn=E2=80=99t come with a prayer book like the Metalware com= piler (which really needed all the divine intervention that it could get). > > > Was that the one that shipped with the IBM RT? Is it just my > imagination or did some of the error messages contain biblical > references? > > - Dan C. > > > It may be that Metaware was available for AIX on the RT, but, if so, not = bundled with AIX. AIX 1 releases bundled a fairly vanilla pcc as provided b= y ISC. AIX 2 releases bundled pcc with the HCR optimization phase added. I= =E2=80=99m not sure about AIX 3 and beyond, since I left before they were r= eleased. The =E2=80=9Cstrategic=E2=80=9D plan was a reimplementation of the= PL.8 compiler as a C compiler with the work done by an IBM group in Toront= o. I suspect that was extra cost option and that pcc with HCR was still bun= dled in the base. I have the impression that AOS (BSD for RT) eventually al= so included the HCR phase. See https://notes.technologists.com/notes/2017/0= 3/08/lets-start-at-the-very-beginning-801-romp-rtpc-aix-versions/ for more = context. CHS > > -- > voice: +1.512.784.7526 e-mail: sauer@technologists.com > fax: +1.512.346.5240 web: https://technologists.com/sauer/ > Facebook/Google/LinkedIn/Twitter: CharlesHSauer >