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From: George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Steve Bellovin recounts the history of USENET
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 11:18:10 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKr6gn2jeiGpziCmObXBWAgujEFeyOqFJ=0uYu4wg2Z-ZWH3Zw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191121031423.GC23794@mcvoy.com>

there is a big US bias in the archives of USENET. All I could find
preserved (before Google deleted it) was my updates to the maps for
York.ac.uk. In collecting history, the US erased most of Europe and
Asia basically.  Our timelines are artificially compressed into the
modern era.

UCL gatewayed a lot of stuff into other news/forum spaces. So, our
view of the world was a disjoint set of UK news, USENET news, European
news, VMS news, BITNET lists. The world was an amazing place. Kuwait
camel breeders association operating online in teaching hospital email
lists in 1985

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:14 AM Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I'd be super happy if he joined the list.  I enjoyed reading
> those, wished he had gone into more detail.
>
> On the Usenet topic, does anyone remember dejanews?  Searchable
> archive of all the posts to Usenet.  Google bought them and then,
> so far as I know, the searchable part went away.
>
> If someone knows how to search back to the beginnings of Usenet,
> my early tech life is all there, I'd love to be able to show my kids
> that.  Big arguing with Mash on comp.arch, following Guy Harris on
> comp.unix-wizards, etc.
>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 09:01:39PM +0200, Arnold Robbins wrote:
> > The Early History of Usenet, Part I: The Technological Setting:
> > https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb/blog/2019-11/2019-11-14a.html
> >
> > The Early History of Usenet, Part II: Hardware and Economics:
> > https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb/blog/2019-11/2019-11-15.html
> >
> > The Early History of Usenet, Part III: File Format:
> > https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb/blog/2019-11/2019-11-17.html
> >
> > Fun reading. Bellovin is another person we should try to get
> > to join this list.
> >
> > Enjoy,
> >
> > Arnold
>
> --
> ---
> Larry McVoy                  lm at mcvoy.com             http://www.mcvoy.com/lm

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-21  3:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-19 19:01 Arnold Robbins
2019-11-21  3:14 ` Larry McVoy
2019-11-21  3:18   ` George Michaelson [this message]
2019-11-21  3:28     ` Larry McVoy
2019-11-21  8:56       ` George Michaelson
2019-11-21  9:40         ` Bakul Shah
2019-11-21  9:51           ` George Michaelson
2019-11-21 11:16         ` Arrigo Triulzi
2019-11-21  3:34   ` reed
2019-11-21  3:39     ` Larry McVoy
2019-11-21  3:40   ` Chet Ramey
2019-11-21  3:42     ` Larry McVoy
2019-11-21  3:50       ` Chet Ramey
2019-11-21  3:51         ` Larry McVoy
2019-11-21  3:58           ` Steve Nickolas
2019-11-21  3:50   ` Bakul Shah
2019-11-21  3:52     ` Larry McVoy
2019-11-21  3:58       ` Bakul Shah
2019-11-21 20:36   ` Dave Horsfall
2019-11-24  2:19   ` Michael Parson
2019-11-21 12:46 Jason Stevens
2019-11-21 13:23 ` arnold
2019-11-21 13:31   ` Jason Stevens
2019-11-21 15:58   ` Leah Neukirchen
2019-11-22 20:18     ` Justin R. Andrusk
2019-11-22 20:49       ` Henry Bent
2019-11-22 21:06         ` Kurt H Maier
2019-11-22 21:32           ` Larry McVoy
2019-11-23  1:48             ` Jason Stevens
2019-11-23  3:45               ` Larry McVoy
2019-11-23  4:42                 ` Warren Toomey
2019-11-22 22:21           ` Henry Bent
2019-11-23  0:00             ` Kurt H Maier
2019-11-23  1:36               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-11-22 23:21       ` Arthur Krewat
2019-11-23  1:32         ` Justin R. Andrusk
2019-11-23 22:25           ` Arthur Krewat
2019-11-21 17:22 ` Tomasz Rola

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