From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 5970 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2023 03:41:19 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 23 Jan 2023 03:41:19 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18FDB425C7; Mon, 23 Jan 2023 13:41:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-oa1-f44.google.com (mail-oa1-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B75C3425C4 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2023 13:41:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-oa1-f44.google.com with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-15ebfdf69adso12751397fac.0 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 19:41:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=algebras-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=FuWyIYhWwwTL+sro+r08l2fzOGxtBGbJSNjARYwdlag=; b=8Riw/TmV5pztD/MtlJ4xE1hkhoQyz2TMG5X9QceTWch1mNvL0A64fsjNFsRdquNHDt PNVuA43NbphfQyAmHuU42aunZiU8hL63UhurlvYZyH/pGm87s5sBJe2yAFuCYzWMHzYn FjGvsELYHa4UxB8J28qBnI4R5vRyhFbOsGhzPUm8ESEv4iJGqW3plaAlONTXvRaASF4E CC0Qn8QTScd1xCgvy6l6dPS1ptzAs4b3YkKytl3XhlGcQJR05YQdATExQ/9T2V2ZwvWq RQs0afwpP+fz+wSPzFohELyrbs5NPPIkj1Yj4lEMIaN5v/Wr8n3Ek+gUbsPMVqZv1OJE rFHg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=FuWyIYhWwwTL+sro+r08l2fzOGxtBGbJSNjARYwdlag=; b=ERqqD/3PgglahSXK8ECYHPQVaXcaChtWPzTm6Z5FLIX+LTE4sr4JOWN8lXcDszxRjp Oi0H3Fft/l2XShEBtJaGgGmnxuSx/Xp2/FD5Gvypfxm3Xc/gzdSdC6qMBMxhEFFCRIOK 6P5ZJPbLb3cuQfV+K2JPbbMpOjxlIqMfGb49Qd9+YE9yeJtjcUFMckyoZKKclNS1NsG9 c/rF9wSK4qXlo4ojLiDwXt1hSVKOKRsqOMIBxiS0LKpR+7lx58v3xEabb+OppX6kGIu1 dNOva6nQn//+7Zy7qvhs1alDo+kfHjXtJ2G9bCYVDWgIDWDhMYIsRbOOpqItRLTWRGUh 6ohw== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kr99dJuerOO7tDCFoeoU05tI/0XYFPxloES+n1Cw0tngG1FsM83 JQ/HNOizTyA0ZGYkFV6MEEeB+r9d/KbMkVOGhGBwYsqLOFSNWA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXvYMHxwgAkIZEeeOAdD5k4+dKvXnIVrvrRSGwzR50n9sy/A+wiWPS6klTBeTZAxxfkmH+QrC/ZfF2TSWGKL+WM= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:3b8e:b0:15f:b8f8:b5d7 with SMTP id gi14-20020a0568703b8e00b0015fb8f8b5d7mr512418oab.150.1674445201148; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 19:40:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: George Michaelson Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 13:39:49 +1000 Message-ID: To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: PJ33JC66D3CEMMF22HBM7VRHVXYLKRZS X-Message-ID-Hash: PJ33JC66D3CEMMF22HBM7VRHVXYLKRZS X-MailFrom: ggm@algebras.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: interesting case of not getting the point: dc on a mac List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: I should add both were /usr/bin/dc and I do NOT install into system owned paths on these hosts. (for me Homebrew installs in /opt and FreeBSD pkg installs in /usr/local) -G On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 1:38 PM George Michaelson wrote: > > ggm@GGM-802602 ~ % uname && dc --version |egrep git\|dc > Darwin > dc 4.0.2 > Report bugs at: https://git.yzena.com/gavin/bc > ggm@GGM-802602 ~ % > > finley% uname && dc --version |egrep git\|dc > FreeBSD > dc 5.2.2 > Report bugs at: https://git.yzena.com/gavin/bc > finley% > > On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 1:33 PM Steve Nickolas wrote: > > > > On Mon, 23 Jan 2023, Dave Horsfall wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, Steve Nickolas wrote: > > > > > >> I think there was one particular dc clone...guy whose name started w= ith > > >> a G? and his version did that. > > > > > > On my ancient MacBook Pro (13-inch, mid 2010, High Sierra 10.13.6): > > > > > > mackie:~ dave$ dc > > > (^D) > > > mackie:~ dave$ dc -V > > > dc (GNU bc 1.06) 1.3 > > > > > > On my ancient FreeBSD server: > > > > > > aneurin% dc > > > (^D) > > > aneurin% dc -V > > > dc (BSD bc) 1.3-FreeBSD > > > > > > Nil prompt in both cases. > > > > > >> Most Linux versions use GNU's which Does The Right Thing=C2=AE=E2=84= =A2=C2=A9. > > > > > > Perhaps so, but I try to avoid using Penguin/OS and GNU... I don't l= ike > > > its licence conditions ("free" it ain't), and I would rather write my= own > > > libraries than be constrained by Stallman's conditions. > > > > > > -- Dave > > > > I've dealt with fanboys telling me how to do GPL on my own stuff, and i= t > > left a sore taste in my mouth. I don't care about the stuff I *use*, b= ut > > it did leave me very negative about the GPL itself, and if it seems tha= t > > some of the OS-building stuff I've been talking about here and elsewher= e > > has anything to do with a grudge against GNU,...well...it does. > > > > Still, GNU does seem to have more respect for precedent than a lot of > > johnny-come-lately coders trying to reimplement stuff themselves. > > > > -uso.