From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 07a43f57 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 22:32:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id BA3529516D; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 08:32:07 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA7994BCA; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 08:31:44 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=algebras-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@algebras-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="eEmmrHYr"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 5C21F93D9E; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 08:31:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-il1-f175.google.com (mail-il1-f175.google.com [209.85.166.175]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DF4493D8C for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 08:31:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-il1-f175.google.com with SMTP id p6so19220821ilp.1 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 14:31:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=algebras-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=gP4qVB/9nQtbuh3URw/jQbjww2e2bb6yBFAH1y56Y2E=; b=eEmmrHYrvaKoB//fvAcLl/AIfm+gznIaFXs5hIfHPWAmFamVJTOytIprsGkTJVTpTg 89ej1X4O/m+RWxacog5HYfoJD/cUBZaWMwqapdb0Yz8+vwYz9C4hH0tPtiQKSBDevjBS 50IHSyKQxlnIC1ehYaS5johODRBxpsad80Xd6gU9msKfNGgwgwBwdWH5RR5eTbUdaIBd acIc9yahCOsQ4jgruqRIa6Ze1Hk+Bf5vjXdvoFB9Z+YcXdKCUSZjR18f7lOtRwC6xuXI Z6YbHYWzuCveyi8alGQMhSBqxzecI23C+nXpk8/s08wXy/LyA9OlT4cPkHqhXqXyKAys 1Hvw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=gP4qVB/9nQtbuh3URw/jQbjww2e2bb6yBFAH1y56Y2E=; b=Km//ZC59dz5CBG+joCY4jX58ltO5AI8cs3PE3ulVR5mlxR+8CZKqupP1AD9knDf8iV D1EnfYyIUgM4Vm7ZZ7UQffF1DLEl4Yw6zOcJwyij/d8F+erdVMeB3ioymTWEitnOsUlL b18SABihttY8bdvhtJ9lWlKVBYm3A5go3sLyTSH5XLayVGo+KWZTswfmWfV+vFobg7/A tlOYbUbRcpBPeykqWynuWKJyKgoSDXJZi5lPcf4CDxRyUUltHuiAx5IVunKCOrtYW4cY SH09Nk2leH5wo8VrhXrbUP1cFBimbZQVFnH1fDOBZ/B+xfoqNymqHW5RQUr3OwtXEC9X UJxg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVISmgYGneXh99JuiVPx1jB5W4Yt2tvBP5Bq3ahv2Z9GB9lPrTD 1X/ka6iCHS4wAfhwgVMJSisR6rlgL3V54GFLFSZYDLbagQY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzHmACX/fDQafIVg3T0V1Vlar99tBzluz8+qa8sHyycyIgshA1eLA4HSVjGKlu6TjXsGu+KTsy7AHhpYdqm1tI= X-Received: by 2002:a92:3dd8:: with SMTP id k85mr44219667ilf.176.1574807500598; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 14:31:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1574805575.17040.for-standards-violators@oclsc.org> In-Reply-To: <1574805575.17040.for-standards-violators@oclsc.org> From: George Michaelson Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 08:31:29 +1000 Message-ID: To: Norman Wilson Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] FreeBSD retires gets()! X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" I have managed to forget most of my C issues, but "does it gobble the \n or does it leave the \n" sticks, because gets() was bound into it, and because Python perpetuates it in line-mode reading. On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 8:00 AM Norman Wilson wrote: > > We retired gets from Research UNIX back in 1984 or perhaps > earlier, with no serious pain because replacing it wasn't > hard and everybody agreed with the reason. > > I'm glad to hear some part of the rest of the world is > catching up. > > We also decided to retire the old Enigma-derived crypt(1), > except we didn't want to throw it out entirely in case > someone had an old encrypted file and wanted the contents > back. So it was removed from the manual and the binary > moved to /usr/games. > > Norman Wilson > Toronto ON