From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 14812 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2023 04:48:48 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 10 Feb 2023 04:48:48 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D002411CC; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 14:48:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-oa1-x29.google.com (mail-oa1-x29.google.com [IPv6:2001:4860:4864:20::29]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A8AB411C9 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 14:48:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-oa1-x29.google.com with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-16346330067so5340222fac.3 for ; Thu, 09 Feb 2023 20:48:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=algebras-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=FO7CAmAAvuCgTczjp0W7BYB/Bdvkbi8jmKSDyx1hCTY=; b=OKq95mOqRUd7qe9/6ZpT+vA59t9Q0tGDW3p0Jhx96jkjD5Hom7R+AzK7352KR+7IR8 uij20nmJNsVO1soZwL/A0QlDrJpz9Ayo7vYOssWUU4SP53sQQpbujOefCVVcpNpgVei0 a3j1YIUZEdIPyfIJ/J7nq9WufeKNk3jZgxT7yJ+nTe4IiLbs0lK749JXuI6IXeEpkbpG 4MgAa/WEm1Y/exQnhT0E6oDCrjXtzJJfeO79NRvi+j5bXcUJIi+S7LrIgDr4SP2/Xorm izWtpu/Foqq9rERVZtdxo9ux9H91TfEcCykAntu7XCjOV21teCq1GtGOCLWBlA/NGePM +9WA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=FO7CAmAAvuCgTczjp0W7BYB/Bdvkbi8jmKSDyx1hCTY=; b=gMq0Y3oDwRkGR6OEs7NibRgaRZnFmFz6A3VURANa9lHu45LnHkdo6vnDBrtAia68UC WscnNUEcC1rpU//6dZo8XsoE6rnaUy+O0z+atKOVx2lnBh8M2ARPB2vymSSCL+wCLBuM New11EIIxivzWGTSjrBZqAkbh18aUWOVyR1mxQhnCyeFm48qc9Is0nbBNPYKZrVM+hTL ppy8J7s0s+Et9g4ChQhEy7H1o+tAFYcdGBVpjvOlMKmbv6loWJdXu3nVH1sTHTo9BpkC w6PjH/j0J5tK1+4H1UUqtHhVWwl9qJJYUn3eu8l16/M/oWVhve3FxuXwPVsTiNuyl5mM z53A== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKUwv9y/VGj31Cy6OZqgLQSv31jxKGVYBdgYYiK6TqZAo7nKsWn6 RyeSfuWeusalOML+Y3CacCqNaKplZz1DPoFxO6ogGoyVNBGUtw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set8Z/L/p9jUA0SL5x/4/lQMnc1/jNnySUow4qwX2VfbFyY6ohqtwcVg3mkvcSYOJZldSiQvqWtsgLnH2xvtcUfA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:524d:b0:163:a026:77b3 with SMTP id o13-20020a056870524d00b00163a02677b3mr952909oai.150.1676004517876; Thu, 09 Feb 2023 20:48:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2XyFQMdNqMtF1Mr0uR7953_hlXtegijahATtyjqGWWCLPbLmDGDJMVneA7OOB9TeY1ww6N5b7cJy8u4ceemZqdumwM4jrlzmd0KDJQuVMXA=@protonmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2XyFQMdNqMtF1Mr0uR7953_hlXtegijahATtyjqGWWCLPbLmDGDJMVneA7OOB9TeY1ww6N5b7cJy8u4ceemZqdumwM4jrlzmd0KDJQuVMXA=@protonmail.com> From: George Michaelson Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2023 14:48:27 +1000 Message-ID: To: tuhs@tuhs.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-ID-Hash: MDAGNFJ2ODBTF5RR677SSNFG2NF4OCD6 X-Message-ID-Hash: MDAGNFJ2ODBTF5RR677SSNFG2NF4OCD6 X-MailFrom: ggm@algebras.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: UNIX/TS 4.x Findings List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: I hesitate to throw this into the mix, but I would observe in those days, people were a bit less formal about release versions and I have a suspicion (but only a suspicion) that from time to time what shipped on a 1200bpi tape was not some canonical 'this is the release as of 3 months ago' but more 'this is a sh scripted product of the checked out state as I understood it, on the box I had available to me, to cut a tape. The tape had to have boot blocks up front. You got told to do mt fsf stuff. So.. I accept *some* of the tape structure was a bit more formally policed: giving people the wrong architecture and bootblocks would be bad. But when it comes to what was unpacked for runtime? I think it wasn't quite as 'reproducible build' formal as it is now, for some people. The version numbers were not mutable. What was stamped with them? Perhaps it was. G