From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 23495 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2021 22:34:51 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 7 Feb 2021 22:34:51 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 5C95D9C9E0; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 08:34:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371679C21B; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 08:34:11 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=algebras-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@algebras-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="R8K+Zc9N"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id F2B3E9C21B; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 08:34:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lf1-f48.google.com (mail-lf1-f48.google.com [209.85.167.48]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE6BA9BA66 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 08:34:07 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lf1-f48.google.com with SMTP id d3so19476634lfg.10 for ; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 14:34:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=algebras-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ECw13WhETQv4g95/OC0rAVBVHVHN8wcvqk4aC26fEvI=; b=R8K+Zc9N3HcQciojaX7tG4//ImwWZ0YJuy7ruHsjChKV7S435NxBJrTISQ6qc9gTll gfk3IKToYTvY68TcD8V/X5dEMK48ZfN6oPdDnq9l2UGTRAfEyUNwHvX/T7WWsUcVBTW9 h69DKDDYSSxTAkS+al4cVR5x2JIEQST5RlTt6PdGk1bg4Oqv87TPjmLy0pYV4PpcOdx2 LL4T6+COciPVFvohNLlJGlol9xdU12+921zDSKpPa42tkXNZF0875NtUqx2sGZ2OZ3li IIvQ0BqcARbxykJlOLcqNoYX/hhnBEgWNtVUG3HJw77k27uCVThDAYmj3wk4wFStvpwJ 8lJg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ECw13WhETQv4g95/OC0rAVBVHVHN8wcvqk4aC26fEvI=; b=Yti60GsjfKD7ooMuwAkg2lFJn1v3DnQ9F4fd+8evCiQFHoFg1DbmgNn4g/eTihWgyp F1fQnYPszkM7QHT1d+1leoElWEFYlqUw7TSq7+xdkipAjMf38YCbwqgyzYSCthRnf2TB 4vzpBbaKN/8jrzFwoOW/nHoqqFX1kn4WLlqXdAzGTPePCA0KqNrS5/Zi+mRr8do06skm mmgQI1suVuAEklAMRgH//Qyk1y5yNHK4QRFJwEHf9glrbg7SdHKlvNwrsm5xRYNBZPuc 5sR7HDy/UGovjxFw4JpApBOwqpKfKmwBW5qYoxwfhp91zjr6givT0F/4DKRFU8on6aN6 DiLw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533F3ov/AlQ25qcHctJzS6wtvd++FmLwf5vlOkfAW/cAVPMB7pTU tHX63Cz7HjHRSqj5FeYLg6ueR6BMn2VkGvjuDba6XA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyPXVSny5zK9tvsaiv7Jp2+Cx9RX5Mluj25mFA0QGNLY2jNxRuWWtZbGJpKJKBXAPqRNgz2U+YJx/cC515TqnI= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:4436:: with SMTP id w22mr8409629lfl.41.1612737246057; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 14:34:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: George Michaelson Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 08:33:55 +1000 Message-ID: To: M Douglas McIlroy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] [TUHS} Typing Tutor [and tuhs archive] X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" The "learn" about shell or editing required you to demonstrate you could type with 'pack my box with six dozen liquor jugs' input gating the lesson as I remember it. something else around that time, I think the TOPS-10 typing tutor got me the home keys. Took another 10 years for me to wake up to being able to type mostly eyes off the keyboard but it sure seems to work (most of the the time) now. -G On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 9:28 AM M Douglas McIlroy wrote: > > This topic is evocative, even though I really have nothing to say about it. > > Mike Lesk started, and I believe Brian contributed to, "learn", a program > for interactive tutorials about Unix. It was never pushed very far--almost > certainly not into typing. > > But the mention of typing brings to mind the inimitable Fred Grampp--he > who pioneered massive white-hat computer cracking. Fred's exploits justified > the opening sentence I wrote for Bell Labs' first computer-security task > force report, "It is easy and not very risky to pilfer data from Bell > Laboratories computers." Among Fred's many distinctive and endearing > quirks was the fact that he was a confirmed two-finger typist--proof that > typing technique is an insignificant factor in programmer productivity. > > I thought this would be an excuse to tell another ftg story, but I > don't want to repeat myself and a search for "Grampp" in the tuhs archives > misses many that have already been told. Have the entries been lost or > is the index defective? > > Doug >