From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 29650 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2021 23:23:19 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 17 Mar 2021 23:23:19 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1E6779C29B; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 09:23:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07409B68A; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 09:22:57 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=algebras-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@algebras-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="oArUgi94"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 679869B68A; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 09:22:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lj1-f176.google.com (mail-lj1-f176.google.com [209.85.208.176]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FF6A9B688 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 09:22:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lj1-f176.google.com with SMTP id 184so5246006ljf.9 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 16:22:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=algebras-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=I/8TG1UC7wYR8TONh1tgLAY+2gWAv6xnjrynJ19cSC8=; b=oArUgi94rwo+2fsqKoLAtrX8nP7Zb234/wD9M4l9i9S2guMkNF7QPvbTXoub0q3xxF 0i56aYbcclMsNJiqbUzFKikFhh3xh52CJVFkmmJmBF3DvsXJpqEGrLaKEoZnaq+OXoxh BGSOiui1K7bPU+kBht2EdMzdSVZvydaPDYa/c6N0QtZonEgWMojGRX0hU9ONKnsn5vCZ fd8d4KcgkojFvsjMOBoaSw1rX1HkJuOvNvHbY5LpOp2y5CxASXNNOV9qGb8cmNzV5VHe EP2OvVjxqpVtRzALA7pOteHCDHzd3iEBsMN56NbAx3mOWPcLbyeM2FTyumlYA/CPubD6 4fXQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=I/8TG1UC7wYR8TONh1tgLAY+2gWAv6xnjrynJ19cSC8=; b=LGobHr9S86QISBtmhp1iKQ4dZ+1z0kREKelxNjL0OmuQfvl/j0VHm3wM3gAEYiuwMR GEzNEXQDp5EFRu1FefSaFyniV0pGmeyKYIKVCGQhPNi4GszlKMK/R1TorP/LZI1PtAei FrTQ3KAo+JjhRhy+UE1+LaFUvO9y2F4Spha/DCrD645wBHpuvHNsCcavP5bZ/1fBtdO8 hOYGLp9CmYNT0OnzLufW4DHGpKNJI04SI/G3OT7HU3oEayoEsvgpTDLSkE4KZnS97JEg DzoMGifByrTpy22OAZIOqodz5kfKK2+eEgxwu61VdpWjS3eQYyNRp7Nf2xzoJH1BL5dK +XGg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531tSV28kPldzcGoMXYDtZDiUpIunoSyKS6hygz01sdk7ILeLh/+ 3XebA9+GbkKyPkcAsb0yThVVKKJYkf13CpU8/F2BcQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyGWKyeORhwdHsI6A3rv0L579BGCmbK2RWKaJ2A9PQ/OqEYvhUHpPrIH7iZxvOdC5rk9JkGmvSqJLONExcjhag= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:6e17:: with SMTP id j23mr3663849ljc.209.1616023373811; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 16:22:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: George Michaelson Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 09:22:42 +1000 Message-ID: To: M Douglas McIlroy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Surprised about Unix System V in the 80's - so sparse! X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" I often think about Quartermains book "the matrix" and also Carl Malamud's time couch-surfing his contact list. Both of them were very much "of their time" -you wouldn't need to write "the matrix" now, because convergence has taken care of many of the meta-net issues Quartermain talked about. Carls problem on the other hand, just got monetised into AirBNB On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 9:19 AM M Douglas McIlroy wrote: > > Connectivity evolved rapidly in the early 1980s. In 1980 I served on the > board of CSNet, which connected have-not CS departments (including Bell > Labs) via dialup and X.25 links onto the periphery of the magic circle > of Arpanet. > By 1982 it was not extraordinary that I could via international email arrange > all aspects of a trip to visit lively universities of the AUUG.