From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, T_DKIMWL_WL_MED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 938246c3 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 17:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 125B59ED54; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 03:14:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04A09EBA8; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 03:13:59 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=algebras-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@algebras-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b=DLXKES30; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A4F709E3BA; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 03:13:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wm0-f44.google.com (mail-wm0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 520F89E3A6 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 03:13:54 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wm0-f44.google.com with SMTP id a19-v6so3634956wmb.2 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 10:13:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=algebras-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FTnYJxItrmqS6/7s5Usuaa0/uClo6/kqN8QMS2K0Vgk=; b=DLXKES30G5wjzLAlcSsgV6x/sky24bHx+Y2ZQYsyAm8iMSz1l8IUOpyyTxJPyQvnD3 zd+Vw4Q5tNNN4BBz+NMelhe4X6xEkhwhrTjOqSsqCXrXy/4GlCOAz52uTBuKvGAJfgez s5Ix9cQ2tArJFd68hv8vQdlcE1M/EuZL68+S5tQgMA6ykBEdpEx2sNdunseqx3Qcyuew gcc5uTs31E1lR59+ovq/Pzk2CQ2jJFd8s0dECSMkaETGbKSEYoovaP8j4iiBgq2HMqMj vrpql6qVQq1RRwQzKjgr4KrCaVy3jVXWp+sdXDSfibk72whIgT0URiIIV0y/bRsJQI5I XykA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FTnYJxItrmqS6/7s5Usuaa0/uClo6/kqN8QMS2K0Vgk=; b=T1HmdgLr0jWuwUVBbPaYm32zjpV+nwbLW1+skrBrla1rrbL7rKSV4xRUP/kp79aPnS ASstclwK0m0prIxjkrOd+IFKoyfWSrvquQ3B30G14TzS83+j6pTBl6bqAuFE0kby7fPL eQvk0sCC0rkkYFKAy7ZMSY/149jdMFvJ5cTBCa7DgPBZImySdc3Ft3TW/rqRX0CFa78h PbFywa/r7g2JcRXaJw8THDZNFkfEZjLUt76sfX9hgFe2AgkdGF49UuL76tYtFm5Cuou+ i6OryaHvUL8qv2MFyLtzkirw7hFnwdlrzgMR8rMLkVSLzsgE9UBpTT7Ivz/eEItK/+4u ZgGA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlHv7vMPJv2hSprBhuuu5pN8HteHcTiijOTW0n3lClVtMQFXQvs0 pAFDtYeBj/H/9iFCxtC7sV9p625TC7rEY4J03rNfSzzN X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpecqRxO2ReZ1iRDV5M/hwogpvuRtt6rBeSxE0HpZRKZFyFNhdjB8Cp7R6VPvZ8fzvb2W/dTifMBC3Ly3BLfT68= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:4182:: with SMTP id o124-v6mr2073061wma.101.1531934032829; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 10:13:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a1c:12cb:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 10:13:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2001:67c:370:128:c22:d565:c1f0:1d24] In-Reply-To: <20180718162514.GA67682@wopr> References: <201807181139.w6IBdvUT063499@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> <20180718162514.GA67682@wopr> From: George Michaelson Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 13:13:52 -0400 Message-ID: To: William Cheswick , The Unix Heritage Society Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [TUHS] grep X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" I was always told g/re/p as in g(lobally) apply r(egular) e(xpression) and p(rint) was a backronym which reflected the regex commonalities of sed/awk/grep/ed/ex/vi (ok, the latter two of course eggregiously offend because its Bill Joy exoticism, but I think by now we can accept some of the pauline epistles have later authors and are still held to be useful... I like the linguistic moment here. AWKward language? No. Not at all. sqwawk came to mind. and roff, as a simpler runoff, also seems to find how people take english and mogrify it to make new things. -G On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 12:25 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 12:13:08PM -0400, William Cheswick wrote: >> Marion Harris gave a talk at 1985 Portland (Fireworks and Salmon) >> Usenix about the unapologetic use of such verbs. >> Grep uses the =E2=80=9Cgr=E2=80=9D as in grasp, grope, grab, etc, simila= r to the >> =E2=80=9Csl=E2=80=9D in slither, slider, sleek, etc. She gave a linguist= ic term >> for such things, and I remember a word like =E2=80=9Csythesim=E2=80=9D, = but that=E2=80=99s >> not it. >> >> ches >> > > I think it's probably "phonestheme" as defined by Firth in "The > Tongues of Men & Speech." > > khm >