From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id bac7369e for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2019 20:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A2FDE93EF9; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 06:00:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C05793D09; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 05:59:59 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="GtG+S+kF"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 6831E93D06; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 05:59:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vk1-f175.google.com (mail-vk1-f175.google.com [209.85.221.175]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB85493D06 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 05:59:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vk1-f175.google.com with SMTP id j21so815596vki.11 for ; Wed, 09 Oct 2019 12:59:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=eLncgE68EreJmgthgFHBtf+GEe/rFMV5ArylZ9MEBkQ=; b=GtG+S+kFDPhyn7Wtvwrh+Uf2OEkZciIlImqUrMXGSvl4feT7l6S0gcfNOCO8eJTgWo RR/MomjZhZlEsQYi3rj5BB2EzTDQEUp+nvtgfeqpiKd/ME6MPtHxl1pcxOXaeLUf6zOs sHOOMDe0r+4WFQLExZiw+T3msSJFxU4wWzbOQ9uxjEOw9saZ54zMmsS036e/FgjaQvCK 1uSE/5e/cugBS+AQHQZKjAqywaTrmWKQ7RzR5+xcfR9meTC/FZJSPEYN6dcvoWOvIWqf HkoKDHh1MjSJXGxpuqJWgOIi12Olnw5na9NZN6fkrfcAxlXmtFs5ptrj60rbMSrUzM/1 j8Xw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=eLncgE68EreJmgthgFHBtf+GEe/rFMV5ArylZ9MEBkQ=; b=q/IQsB1ut9F/2mpUAKchCC1w6PhpJ8E4MovgpZJSBQlpF5kAMlFtTSoJpZoNIu1n8t aS94ZyucHCFIB0V+K/njsul0EifwZp81dLlHmb49Se9n8n8EOpiKaGus1EHBQVLhQY2+ F/XlrwwJ7UfTRN4tXYScaIyLpBuntXg+UN6zWKDc/zX3qMtdO642Tf/Rf4Pp8G+7aHOi Ad5lu/Ai9kKQDnesg4WE9giCjk64qLj8XP5s+aq+9jp9ITNgFBDuPE1laGCUtIBUo4kt 5GPs+IF9l/Nv+3PdG6RBguYTTvoh7CJNjEnus9TUzuWhYptwSsGZqEZGnrX0uOO02RHT Ghpg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVQ5TMauvo+x8ZmTlpb2TO46JL/HnR7VZyHLggowbWjhI/VjOa1 ZuJouxN/jBt692NW2oVrYhi92MUuch1e0i8gNcI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqz4lMp7RNnmpDlxQoDlG/UOxB98F7OKb6CtM3MjH/Py6YJ613JbWESF5dqC670lLOU6sSv0OroGdcTsUvH2gco= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:3fd6:: with SMTP id m205mr3102295vka.21.1570651194800; Wed, 09 Oct 2019 12:59:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1570559927.29337.for-standards-violators@oclsc.org> <2e6e1005-3bbf-5dcc-3fcc-099864c752dc@kilonet.net> <8088e5bd-3530-d3e1-8066-db6ea9389dea@kilonet.net> In-Reply-To: From: Rob Pike Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 09:59:43 -1000 Message-ID: To: Nigel Williams Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000088419005947fba11" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Recovered /etc/passwd files X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000088419005947fba11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I coulda told you that. One tends to learn passwords (inadvertently) when they're short and typed nearby often enough. (Sorry, ken.) If I remember right, the first half of this password was on a t-shirt commemorating Belle's first half-move, although its notation may have been different. Interesting though it is, though, I find this hacking distasteful. It was distasteful back when, and it still is. The attitudes around hackery have changed; the position nowadays seems to be that the bad guys are doing it so the good guys should be rewarded for doing it first. That's disingenuous at best, and dangerous at worst. -rob On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 7:50 PM Nigel Williams wrote: > ken is done: > > ZghOT0eRm4U9s:p/q2-q4! > > took 4+ days on an AMD Radeon Vega64 running hashcat at about 930MH/s > during that time (those familiar know the hash-rate fluctuates and > slows down towards the end). > --00000000000088419005947fba11 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I coulda told you that. One tends to learn passwords (inad= vertently) when they're short and typed nearby often enough. (Sorry, ke= n.)

If I remember right, the first half of this password= was on a t-shirt commemorating Belle's first half-move, although its n= otation may have been different.

Interesting thoug= h it is, though, I find this hacking distasteful. It was distasteful back w= hen, and it still is. The attitudes around hackery have changed; the positi= on nowadays seems to be that the bad guys are doing it so the good guys sho= uld be rewarded for doing it first. That's disingenuous at best, and da= ngerous at worst.

-rob


On = Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 7:50 PM Nigel Williams <nw@retrocomputingtasmania.com> wrote:
=
ken is done:

ZghOT0eRm4U9s:p/q2-q4!

took 4+ days on an AMD Radeon Vega64 running hashcat at about 930MH/s
during that time (those familiar know the hash-rate fluctuates and
slows down towards the end).
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