From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 24054 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2021 07:12:43 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 11 Feb 2021 07:12:43 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 11FBF9BA52; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 17:12:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD73E95074; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 17:12:19 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="WcsQp1Qa"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A8DE595074; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 17:12:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lf1-f42.google.com (mail-lf1-f42.google.com [209.85.167.42]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE1CF9503E for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 17:12:15 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lf1-f42.google.com with SMTP id f23so6639124lfk.9 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 23:12:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=GGARNeqHZPRplg0BAkBBstxheV1WSWtV2cMl1Jlo3k4=; b=WcsQp1Qa0OAsM1iWpKMLNdo5EeDApQnHNxpAYFMNdKYtI6VN2LAdz3eOlARnnIR6Yh o5BF/NTQM+xuDPBznkCDVQ7OQJQHTSMtRJ3h2v6eX3yk9qJyIvRyTDSSOC3gm/LaQ4/a /CKCZXbDHRAYwnw4mCu3py8qJHoMhzOffhzVxNuaGAfHCQTRRUi3rKdwtCq9J6nM9Jqi TEwg4krr2dunCtCXQgSlQ2opJcISIPIc5z4eZtT6R3z88/a9EpyWc4V0sjGT89uKlCi6 5+qRS3TSJa27/WqxeRz6b0fUt7Ldc+lsyoEFr1Vo9/8HyApDDpqetRb5KtsmL9DCYiuF m+fg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=GGARNeqHZPRplg0BAkBBstxheV1WSWtV2cMl1Jlo3k4=; b=HQi3eU1wlyCUKEjterq+6CEEbdsZB2lVgiS658uYZN7RPU0eGrgWUmNRLjvPBImFf/ 2794015sdGU1ZMOgkCv8CTfA96YMaHhHooh7R8JhWJW325s4LDdp25tQPL072GCaPZl5 6dP5F4EQ49+pq8umv/RfMTRHYD2VFYUGO7V+40AVe0dXEa9YuLU15ys4Hy2nPfS08k8k 3t+2yGN5b7OUBe1j4PIN/Do0bxpNRLj2XFvtmoN5U9MHznA9qtSk+BXaYVxLVR7cMSOD j1exHWbKj6sm6N3mQDHPwJxRiT4d0+XpQ03U4lS9BZ0KvNQ90UrFyOSKwusyHUC5pp+D ZP+w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5332YmiGtf6Tc1vCsRkZEPi8nbL4C9ejxRazQSvOLcBgs3YW7xQ1 5vuTJLibfPPDtW24VcwqwWT93nPBxhVHMXKk6JCdoHHiwcg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzqDjnZDP+NRRfqkY9O4mORnpVzGngT04h80v0UfcePUzeLNYAyNhB5GnVN4Y6v/QrzKMra/rLmLUcFnRqfm44= X-Received: by 2002:a19:e219:: with SMTP id z25mr3659227lfg.254.1613027533928; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 23:12:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8b580c46-ecfb-9383-ed43-08108b3ee7bf@tllds.com> <20201130163753.GB18187@mcvoy.com> <202102102236.11AMann01820861@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <4be538bd-a4ee-4287-4d61-9cc6e18c061b@mhorton.net> <20210211025253.GX13701@mcvoy.com> <8412062A-2360-4464-B834-2567AEA69C0D@humeweb.com> In-Reply-To: <8412062A-2360-4464-B834-2567AEA69C0D@humeweb.com> From: Rob Pike Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 18:12:02 +1100 Message-ID: To: Andrew Hume Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002c3e2805bb0a3d8e" Subject: Re: [TUHS] troff was not so widely usable X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000002c3e2805bb0a3d8e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable https://www.cs.princeton.edu/~bwk/202/index.html On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 6:05 PM Andrew Hume wrote: > there was actually a weird fuss about the Merganthaler typesetter. > > Ken figured out how the fonts were encoded and so we had the raw outline > data for > all the fonts (they were gorgeous!). this enabled us to add in special > characters like > the peter weinberger face. > > ken wanted to do the right thing and tried to license the fonts from > Merganthaler, > but we had endless discussions where Ken would say =E2=80=9Cwe know how t= he fonts > are encoded, > can we license them?=E2=80=9D and the sales person would say =E2=80=9Cno = you can=E2=80=99t; > they=E2=80=99re secret=E2=80=9D, > and so on. we=E2=80=99d even show them the peter face but to no avail. so= we kinda > flew > under the radar for that (but we tried!). > > the typesetter itself was entertaining; if i recall correctly, the > software ran on a 8in floppy > and Ken wrote a B compiler/run time system for the computer inside. > > andrew --0000000000002c3e2805bb0a3d8e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Feb 11, = 2021 at 6:05 PM Andrew Hume <andre= w@humeweb.com> wrote:
there was actually a weird fuss about the Merganthaler typeset= ter.

Ken figured out how the fonts were encoded and so we had the raw outline da= ta for
all the fonts (they were gorgeous!). this enabled us to add in special char= acters like
the peter weinberger face.

ken wanted to do the right thing and tried to license the fonts from Mergan= thaler,
but we had endless discussions where Ken would say =E2=80=9Cwe know how the= fonts are encoded,
can we license them?=E2=80=9D and the sales person would say =E2=80=9Cno yo= u can=E2=80=99t; they=E2=80=99re secret=E2=80=9D,
and so on. we=E2=80=99d even show them the peter face but to no avail. so w= e kinda flew
under the radar for that (but we tried!).

the typesetter itself was entertaining; if i recall correctly, the software= ran on a 8in floppy
and Ken wrote a B compiler/run time system for the computer inside.

andrew
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