From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 85da9719 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 02:04:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 258189C71B; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 12:04:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D665A9BCCF; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 12:03:33 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="P49aqflZ"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 8E6E19BCCF; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 12:03:31 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-f47.google.com (mail-vs1-f47.google.com [209.85.217.47]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F26F9B57D for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 12:03:31 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-f47.google.com with SMTP id b79so4109555vsd.9 for ; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 18:03:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=zcTfW2iwV8TEx67Ff/zk4AKHHkM0rxdNAnYLyKA03Vs=; b=P49aqflZTVF4sZJmUJs0JAAcAzYNMkdkgNBIc/o7+U0Q3KeV6sfQ3nNyvnC0rv1zKV a5v0TLdGt78nXMydtZASbuUh3DBWBQvqEgDVYQsY+3pAj7Yosetg/Okmxkb15KFflQhV 6EwH9b8IUcsSOLxBqd79JRi7kHS+WgIvNDth6z/tdH+YbnNtkLgCa3uMRpqwX2IxRR5K BzPge7BvvlekW86Vz0B/aWlfUSM3FCAb26gy8X+n31mwiqJd54XIh/FWfsVcNK/mJSNX ozLthAnK9qZY6A0zEW83CW1pLXTZf53YFw47zIiSaFhjp8hU9tmBsKfe8R/mkHLV9fHA J4BQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=zcTfW2iwV8TEx67Ff/zk4AKHHkM0rxdNAnYLyKA03Vs=; b=tZCbuUyxgLreRnVuwHVKT8Y/OvOFaw/MaEKZC0/D7Oy8QL5l80VKLqqYlI4ixP8QnZ cKozurq40wngPkWkMIfxCpmR2LifzhI2gVfQdflao28ZA+RFEWVqPjDJ4HmXFN7X4qDN +ERgG1xLcSJO0nv1DNjKx1/yxLPBm2MyOmKmxqAPB2yfkAbbW3Za+9d6GqVhF4KvaCSD OYLHG6c/GvoCLffuCbXCo2a1W8/AWK8FoBp6BjgDagXK292hp8DRMcCjeFaZG7XbZjmo s67vzxPBQ5KptIs2iP+R81Iowm2j19uR8Zc7foPbCHKFwqZx4cWvpdyxJcT2x365m8q9 RN4A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUVEMzqZ/Z0Il8rdUax+zuOhUBDr2fsWrc2vslVAtY6O+Ydvz68 ou2gqn6tHGVXcSVwkhbP9fFmSwdAu1kZftpqii8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyDJ58b8pU/2DPZTJShPLm8C8fsM3HfRbh2iolomnLigwKHhugWS7vbhyTkpEDx2QN/fLAs3HR2hABaqiFjfnI= X-Received: by 2002:a67:c097:: with SMTP id x23mr19553851vsi.164.1575857010000; Sun, 08 Dec 2019 18:03:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3d1053b0debfc5a79267860e058b1d07e7686811@webmail.yaccman.com> <25D66740-7832-4BE9-877E-7F4C905B4195@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <25D66740-7832-4BE9-877E-7F4C905B4195@gmail.com> From: Rob Pike Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 13:03:18 +1100 Message-ID: To: Adam Thornton Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004c487705993bcd9b" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Gaming on early Unix X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000004c487705993bcd9b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My favorite (other than Nuke the Smileys) was written at the UofT by Hugh Redelmeier. It was a version of tic-tac-toe that played only a single line, and would always win. If it didn't like your move, it changed it. If your move was a good one, it would change its previous move. And it did this with lovely little messages. It was fun watching people get upset at it. I don't know where the source is nowadays. I may have it somewhere, or it might be ferric dust long since swept up from a cupboard of failed 9-track tapes. -rob On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 11:47 AM Adam Thornton wrote: > > > > On Dec 8, 2019, at 5:35 PM, Ken Thompson via TUHS > wrote: > > > > in the early 70s, noone had seen a computer. > > i had a terminal at home and we were giving > > a dinner party. i wrote several games for the > > party from the back of an off-the-shelf puzzle > > book. > > > > the ones i remember: > > > > moo (bulls + cows) > > hunt the wumpus (move or shoot) > > learning tic-tac-toe > > i can guess your number (divide and conquer) > > jealous husbands (similar to fox hen corn) > > nim > > > > i think there were more. they went over > > pretty well at the party. > > > > i think this was 1969 or 1970. > > > Clarification, please. > > Was =E2=80=9CHunt the Wumpus=E2=80=9D from the back of an off-the-shelf p= uzzle book? I > thought it was by Gregory Yob (per the Creative Computing BASIC Computer > Games book=E2=80=94Wumpus may have been in More BASIC Computer Games), an= d, well, > it=E2=80=99s about dodecahedronal geometry, which seems as if it would on= ly have > been found in a rather rarefied puzzle book, but does seem like the sort = of > Platonic solid a computer-programming nerd in the early 1970s would have > known about. > > Adam --0000000000004c487705993bcd9b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My favorite (other than Nuke the Smileys) was written at t= he UofT by Hugh Redelmeier. It was a version of tic-tac-toe that played onl= y a single line, and would always win. If it didn't like your move, it = changed it. If your move was a good one, it would change its previous move.= And it did this with lovely little messages. It was fun watching people ge= t upset at it.

I don't know where the source is nowa= days. I may have it somewhere, or it might be ferric dust long since swept = up from a cupboard of failed 9-track tapes.

-rob


On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 11:47 AM Adam Thornton <athornton@gmail.com> wrote:


> On Dec 8, 2019, at 5:35 PM, Ken Thompson via TUHS <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org> wrot= e:
>
> in the early 70s, noone had seen a computer.
> i had a terminal at home and we were giving
> a dinner party. i wrote several games for the
> party from the back of an off-the-shelf puzzle
> book.
>
> the ones i remember:
>
> moo (bulls + cows)
> hunt the wumpus (move or shoot)
> learning tic-tac-toe
> i can guess your number (divide and conquer)
> jealous husbands (similar to fox hen corn)
> nim
>
> i think there were more. they went over
> pretty well at the party.
>
> i think this was 1969 or 1970.


Clarification, please.

Was =E2=80=9CHunt the Wumpus=E2=80=9D from the back of an off-the-shelf puz= zle book?=C2=A0 I thought it was by Gregory Yob (per the Creative Computing= BASIC Computer Games book=E2=80=94Wumpus may have been in More BASIC Compu= ter Games), and, well, it=E2=80=99s about dodecahedronal geometry, which se= ems as if it would only have been found in a rather rarefied puzzle book, b= ut does seem like the sort of Platonic solid a computer-programming nerd in= the early 1970s would have known about.

Adam
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