From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 17791 invoked from network); 26 May 2020 08:22:30 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 26 May 2020 08:22:30 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id DEA179C950; Tue, 26 May 2020 18:22:27 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E06B9C6B4; Tue, 26 May 2020 18:22:03 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="a4LOKEZz"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 640409C6B4; Tue, 26 May 2020 18:22:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ua1-f52.google.com (mail-ua1-f52.google.com [209.85.222.52]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0686593D53 for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 18:22:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ua1-f52.google.com with SMTP id g14so1237296uaq.0 for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 01:21:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ZuLp1cPVWEcykqBc20ElbtieetrmYNG8tj7FaFxgR+E=; b=a4LOKEZzNaiefU+aVbl7/h8IZwFlIogBiK35Qxx3gao22alyZsau96wHUqU+yGaZEV XpYmJGK6YaYCRwV/W33GMLXsmzkOEWhribBZmo5X87TK8rgPH2Iu+zTUY01VdbV3Exrh 7YNz8HDS+5BIcwKlsCLFWiGYAwEqVUeT0pYnWz60majHri1w4j9c+GDe6GXl9N/yJbYK Vgezh/6OhTpkSiKB7oh961GxoWCvnJN3Y5MIAICyoX6LkqGj8gOXbu04n3L2SoQq+Twt 9w5fxTvEfwiKWxSZUBOkn+7q3r98ekqTGXXsHO+s3gx7VbElXG/ol4lkxEy8MnaJjZbZ e4HA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ZuLp1cPVWEcykqBc20ElbtieetrmYNG8tj7FaFxgR+E=; b=oySq9GffvXgdBf5sv4O+iVFFMCujVzznlwK1tGsBMTLnE0vhWGJCn9yzodHr2jikLs 8r9FfKMi7q7oTUxUD/a1VTf659XJje2N9wp71XxmJWTtN00sZkQkTr440z1htid+d7ni MKc1wsnpE4/VqtyaEBCcIaix8fCgyglM3P8SCUSKNrV0U1TGyFa+cKr+1NOHdU1OTxZO ByS3QqcmGCV4qxZP/1jGTMcBrItjET3oHK7mUkZPeq0Klgwq79arxMixs2Esxi1LSAJa bzb/d8CvMkfrPpcYSebV+DJMoK+V+4dGv+pNIqI+oUbm99e1nLy2XDw+vc+UQFriWnSM uI3A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532tp2GLQb1Cj82lETZX9WMRTRfeowPhHzMxNKBk2yJWMCXDam/v v6QjICi4nsyfCYLnAlyBD9Y52GGuLyycUd7dsrA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxmNYYH3MlpCKn/eP0prbDU2S59bf91yz8vgboCiH2EulVXWzP38KNM4Bfsg8UWKStkknlaI8qmtZHhxwkLM6s= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:53d5:: with SMTP id l21mr20913780uaa.134.1590481319044; Tue, 26 May 2020 01:21:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8a2e9b1b-8890-a783-5b53-c8480c070f2e@telegraphics.com.au> In-Reply-To: From: Rob Pike Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 18:21:47 +1000 Message-ID: To: Ed Carp Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000b2d5305a688ca15" Subject: Re: [TUHS] History of popularity of C X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000000b2d5305a688ca15 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" The peculiar input semantics of Pascal are a consequence of a locally hacked-up version of NOS (I think that's the name) that ran on the big CDC machines at ETH in Zurich. It was entirely a card-based system then, and the way Pascal required read-ahead worked perfectly on that system, but not really on any other, including other card-based, even NOS systems. I was told this when I worked on that same machine as an exchange student working at EIR outside Zurich, but not by Wirth himself. I couldn't bring myself to ask him personally. -rob --0000000000000b2d5305a688ca15 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The peculiar input semantics of Pascal are a consequence o= f a locally hacked-up version of NOS (I think that's the name) that ran= on the big CDC machines at ETH in Zurich. It was entirely a card-based sys= tem then, and the way Pascal required read-ahead worked perfectly on that s= ystem, but not really on any other, including other card-based, even NOS sy= stems. I was told this when I worked on that same machine as an exchange st= udent working at EIR outside Zurich, but not by Wirth himself. I couldn'= ;t bring myself to ask him personally.

-rob
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