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From: Rob Pike <robpike@gmail.com>
To: chet.ramey@case.edu
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Warner's Early Unix Presentation
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2020 10:29:02 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKzdPgxZXp24KK5D06x1sgh3HS5xZqxbDwY5N7SipDaoBvX0LQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <62548c3e-4692-c2d3-f06f-745353490b95@case.edu>

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% rc

% whatis cd

builtin cd

%


It's much simpler this way. The output is the executable input, free of
decoration and ready to use.


In today's Unix (I use the term loosely) world, the phrase "free of
decoration" is apostasy.


-rob



On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 10:26 AM Chet Ramey <chet.ramey@case.edu> wrote:

> On 2/8/20 6:11 PM, Rob Pike wrote:
> > Not for me it doesn't.
> >
> > % bash
> >
> > bash-3.2$ function f() {
> >
> >     echo hi
> >
> >     }
> >
> > bash-3.2$ export f
> > bash-3.2$ bash
> > bash-3.2$ f
> > bash-3.2$
>
> jenna(1)$ echo $BASH_VERSION
> 5.0.11(6)-release
> jenna(1)$ f() { echo f; }
> jenna(1)$ export -f f
> jenna(1)$ bash
> jenna(2)$ f
> f
> jenna(2)$
>
> It works the same in Mac OS X's bash-3.2.
>
> > I added the 'builtin' command, which did leave the labs. But I added it
> as
> > a way for the "whatis" command to show a builtin, as well as allowing a
> way
> > to guarantee you get the builtin on execution.
>
> Bash uses `type' to tell whether something is a builtin. How does `builtin'
> say whether or not a command is builtin? The output with no arguments?
>
> > How do I get bash to print the function as (shell) source code, so I
> could
> > edit it and play with it again? It was the synergy of all this stuff
> > connected seamlessly that made it so compelling.
> >
>
> jenna(2)$ declare -pf f
> f ()
> {
>     echo f
> }
> declare -fx f
>
> If it weren't exported, you wouldn't get the `declare' command appended
> there.
>
> --
> ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
>                  ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
> Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU    chet@case.edu    http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-08 23:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-07 22:25 Warren Toomey
2020-02-07 23:57 ` Rob Pike
2020-02-08  0:43   ` Warren Toomey
2020-02-08  3:37     ` Warner Losh
2020-02-08 15:15   ` Warner Losh
2020-02-08 21:50     ` Rob Pike
2020-02-08 22:29       ` Chet Ramey
2020-02-08 22:54         ` Rob Pike
2020-02-08 23:02           ` Chet Ramey
2020-02-08 23:11             ` Rob Pike
2020-02-08 23:13               ` Rob Pike
2020-02-08 23:21               ` Kurt H Maier
2020-02-08 23:26                 ` Rob Pike
2020-02-08 23:28                   ` Chet Ramey
2020-02-08 23:26               ` Chet Ramey
2020-02-08 23:29                 ` Rob Pike [this message]
2020-02-08 23:35                   ` Warner Losh
2020-02-08 23:36                   ` Chet Ramey
2020-02-08 23:54                     ` Rob Pike
2020-02-09  0:11                       ` Chet Ramey
2020-02-09  0:19                   ` Larry McVoy
2020-02-08 22:31       ` Richard Salz
2020-02-10 13:18       ` Tony Finch
2020-02-10 15:05       ` Dan Cross
2020-02-10 15:46         ` [TUHS] V9 shell [was Re: Warner's Early Unix Presentation] arnold
2020-02-10 18:39           ` Rob Pike
2020-02-10 18:59             ` Bakul Shah
2020-02-10 19:58             ` Angelo Papenhoff
2020-02-10 20:11               ` Chet Ramey
2020-02-11  9:33             ` arnold
2020-02-11  9:47               ` Noel Hunt
2020-02-11  9:47               ` Rob Pike
2020-02-11  9:59                 ` Rob Pike
2020-02-11 17:05                   ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-02-11 17:18                     ` Arthur Krewat
2020-02-11 18:22                     ` Kurt H Maier
2020-02-16 21:34                       ` Wesley Parish
2020-02-11 18:26                     ` Jon Steinhart
2020-02-11 23:56                       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-02-12  0:12                         ` Jon Steinhart
2020-02-12  1:03                           ` [TUHS] V9 shell Warren Toomey
2020-02-12  5:54                           ` [TUHS] V9 shell [was Re: Warner's Early Unix Presentation] Rob Pike
2020-02-11 17:36                   ` Dan Cross
2020-02-11 18:35                   ` Christopher Browne
2020-02-11 18:54                     ` Rob Pike
2020-02-11 21:36                     ` Harald Arnesen

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