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From: Rob Pike <robpike@gmail.com>
To: Henry Bent <henry.r.bent@gmail.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: On computerese
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 16:11:03 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKzdPgxuErhhZvnfNF8u4KjL-p5nfmU-HztxyWUmLrE1dqs=UQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEdTPBeaS=41qi4H4rZnqFMjAw_deeb_K2i_wFNxPsxKDCQGsQ@mail.gmail.com>

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James Gosling used this idiomatic  JCL command (see loop body) in something
or other, and Brian and I borrowed it (with attribution) for the bundle
command in our book.

% cat /usr/local/plan9/bin/bundle

#!/bin/sh

echo '# To unbundle, run this file'

for i

do

echo "echo $i"

echo "sed 's/.//' >$i <<'//GO.SYSIN DD $i'"

sed "s/^/-/" $i

echo "//GO.SYSIN DD $i"

done

%


-rob

On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 3:31 PM Henry Bent <henry.r.bent@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Sept 2024 at 00:11, Adam Thornton <athornton@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You know, this is a place that might actually be able to provide a
>> definitive answer to me.  A brief web search found me asking the same
>> question in 1995.
>>
>> When I were a wee lad, I was told `dd` was short for `do DEBE`, which,
>> while obviously referencing a well-known movie about a Northern Texas
>> sports team and their most enthusiastic fan, also referred to the mainframe
>> software whose name was an acronym for `Does Everything But Eat` and whose
>> function was to copy data across sources with very different blocking and
>> representation conventions...which is kinda what `dd` does.
>>
>> Can anyone here confirm or deny that origin for the utility's name?
>>
>>
> I looked through a broad swath of dd source files and man pages from v5 to
> System III and SVR4, the BSD SCCS tree, various commercial UNIXes, modern
> BSDs, and modern Linux but none of them have any sort of explanation of the
> name.  I figured I'd at least find something!
>
> It is the case that many places refer to the command's function as
> "convert and copy," so I wonder if it's some sort of play on the fact that
> the expected name of the command might be "cc".
>
> -Henry
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-16  6:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-15 21:48 Noel Chiappa
2024-09-15 22:01 ` Peter Weinberger (温博格) via TUHS
2024-09-15 22:15   ` Rob Pike
2024-09-15 22:29     ` Larry McVoy
2024-09-16  3:55       ` Adam Thornton
2024-09-16  4:17         ` Rob Pike
2024-09-16  5:15           ` Dave Horsfall
2024-09-16  5:26             ` Tom Lyon
2024-09-16 10:30               ` Rob Pike
2024-09-16  5:06         ` Henry Bent
2024-09-16  6:11           ` Rob Pike [this message]
2024-09-16 22:50     ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
2024-09-16 23:14       ` Bakul Shah via TUHS
2024-09-17  2:19         ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
2024-09-16 23:16       ` Dave Horsfall
2024-09-16 23:24         ` Larry McVoy
2024-09-17  0:00           ` segaloco via TUHS
2024-09-17  0:17             ` Rob Pike
2024-09-17  5:54               ` arnold
2024-09-18  1:40                 ` Dave Horsfall
2024-09-18  2:04                   ` Rich Salz
2024-09-18  5:09                     ` arnold
2024-09-18  5:12                       ` arnold
2024-09-18 13:08                   ` Chet Ramey via TUHS
2024-09-30  1:01                 ` Russ Cox
2024-09-30  8:16                   ` arnold
2024-09-30 12:10                     ` Russ Cox
2024-09-30 15:00                       ` Jacob Moody
2024-09-17  6:00       ` arnold
2024-09-17  6:25         ` Henry Bent
2024-09-17 20:25     ` Alexander Schreiber
2024-09-17 20:50       ` Larry McVoy
2024-09-16  3:02   ` arnold
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-09-17  1:27 Norman Wilson
2024-09-17  1:29 ` Rob Pike
2024-09-17  3:44   ` Adam Thornton
2024-09-17 12:08   ` Dan Cross
2024-09-17  1:17 Norman Wilson
2024-09-17  1:28 ` Henry Bent
2024-09-16 12:07 Douglas McIlroy
2024-09-16 14:36 ` Clem Cole
2024-09-15 19:25 John Dow via TUHS
2024-09-15 19:52 ` Dan Halbert
2024-09-15 14:37 Douglas McIlroy
2024-09-15 19:21 ` Rik Farrow
2024-09-15 20:43   ` sjenkin
2024-09-15 20:48     ` Dave Horsfall
2024-09-15 21:08       ` Marc Donner
2024-09-15 21:41         ` Dave Horsfall
2024-09-16  0:49           ` Marc Donner
2024-09-29  0:49     ` Aron Insinga
2024-09-29  1:09       ` Warner Losh
2024-09-30 16:05       ` Paul Winalski
2024-09-30 18:07         ` Dan Cross
2024-09-30 19:15           ` Henry Bent
2024-09-30 20:00             ` Dan Halbert
2024-09-30 20:11               ` Henry Bent
2024-09-30 20:39               ` Clem Cole
2024-10-01  4:31               ` Lars Brinkhoff
2024-10-01 13:36                 ` Dan Halbert
2024-09-30 20:51             ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2024-09-30 21:25               ` Henry Bent
2024-09-30 22:38                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2024-09-30 22:46                 ` Bakul Shah via TUHS
2024-09-29  0:57     ` Aron Insinga
2024-09-15 19:36 ` Ron Natalie
2024-09-16  5:36   ` Wesley Parish
2024-09-16  3:10 ` arnold
2024-09-16  3:30   ` George Michaelson
2024-09-16 10:41     ` Andy Kosela
2024-09-16 10:59     ` Edouard Klein
2024-09-16 20:55       ` Dan Cross
2024-09-16 21:05         ` Chet Ramey via TUHS
2024-09-13  0:26 Douglas McIlroy
2024-09-13  1:01 ` Luther Johnson
2024-09-13  2:20   ` segaloco via TUHS
2024-09-13  4:03     ` Eric E. Bowles via TUHS
2024-09-13 16:05       ` Åke Nordin
2024-09-13  7:13 ` G. Branden Robinson
2024-09-13 13:57 ` Will Senn
2024-09-13 16:12   ` Adam Thornton
2024-09-13 22:56     ` Will Senn

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