From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [50.116.15.146]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8DE28872 for ; Fri, 24 May 2024 09:41:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C8F43AA8; Fri, 24 May 2024 17:41:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pg1-x532.google.com (mail-pg1-x532.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::532]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CE9443AA7 for ; Fri, 24 May 2024 17:41:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pg1-x532.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-681ad26f277so465000a12.3 for ; Fri, 24 May 2024 00:41:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1716536507; x=1717141307; darn=tuhs.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=QIgkrKs4Cyb7Tws3fbxsVVjOQp0SmcsfNDMaPYzRWrs=; b=dEgkivqdtIeICjzIdyBJ1dUBg51+i5I+x20dvRA7fz2hrg+XvT6GUB0wUVSYj3V/N7 DLjQ6v8CVqJWNWwAf67DkG+5aakMZXtkE8u9D0aTFn933KQCKTTghxOIkvpdFZ9gktT4 TADkPIYGdLa66+b7oF3Xp7Amj4ZmPdJ4EtG+i1eQUbjs0SANZKcTgsLZCrPLcsGk5V5T EJJf6oZowtpjKqZkzKr3qy4gE85rEBeN9FlMsNw7ivmJo3fQ53XrSoR700JkyPvsCyAa uRfBrZl34DEJKW/R0VJCGqP+AMMab9w0VBAkLXU1/SBBl2/L7LV1Vj+PjeTDWJHmPFzP 5ldg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1716536507; x=1717141307; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=QIgkrKs4Cyb7Tws3fbxsVVjOQp0SmcsfNDMaPYzRWrs=; b=gYR/JWg4/hi2O9CVhL/+oSAO2u0KkkGGn8xe62FvkpLJObn916h9d4mm0P3h6pYWrc MY9A2kXoT/KGUJPYlH9EGQKfcC0J3bRLHit+zx40cbIwhYf6PZ8kAChpx6PJ18Kt2xjL HO8od5kDO7WFdpDjwOPhpGCKjrqaefYbzI7DSmnPgp1LWUh3nb+iFRXoZzxls0tUtNEI jKi0DNA3kHJx4jVLbC5MNPjdcH3ETID+ACoxK4U44q9gx616cdd8Fab595di1TSRBPs/ cg2ihnrLAWIxgc1i//XYsF8ogiEIr5NySIN3PxVv+EZN0GV4Yaf23g2jU0IiErPCI3im U1mQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yy/Oz1URwfxy82Ke/UDokkTreLkgi9n27zKtKcyGAIARTugeKH+ SerCWi22xPNc2QaMhxVcOd/Mo5B2qpe4bFK6UAi6xwBexCsn/96YilCsC08Dyz1ycOsSY0dz+WL G33gks5OsajBFLRhi8wXcf2CrTYzuIQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IF7cnt20cp+gujhf4hC6vTIA+3KP0Y2ICNA24mDBSmusUuvQqGz1RbGZKYlxnN7j+bVY47w7eDvcKVB4jpgTtE= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:dd82:b0:1a7:5e8f:8707 with SMTP id adf61e73a8af0-1b212d46534mr1676492637.26.1716536507469; Fri, 24 May 2024 00:41:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20240524071747.77477213B8@orac.inputplus.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20240524071747.77477213B8@orac.inputplus.co.uk> From: Rob Pike Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 17:41:36 +1000 Message-ID: To: Ralph Corderoy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c5975006192e4c42" Message-ID-Hash: C77CR7AEVODXCYNBLJXV2HAH3XYKHM5P X-Message-ID-Hash: C77CR7AEVODXCYNBLJXV2HAH3XYKHM5P X-MailFrom: robpike@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: A fuzzy awk List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000c5975006192e4c42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm sure that's the etymology but fuzzing isn't exactly random. That's kinda the point of it. -rob On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 5:18=E2=80=AFPM Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Hi, > > Rob wrote: > > "Fuzzing" as it is now called (for no reason I can intuit) > > Barton Miller describes coining the term. > > =E2=80=98That night, I was logged on to the Unix system in my office v= ia > a dial-up phone line over a 1200 baud modem. ... > I wanted a name that would evoke the feeling of random, unstructured > data. After trying out several ideas, I settled on the term =E2=80= =9Cfuzz=E2=80=9D.=E2=80=99 > > =E2=80=94 https://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~bart/fuzz/Foreword1.html > > Line noise inspired him, as he describes. > > -- > Cheers, Ralph. > --000000000000c5975006192e4c42 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm sure that's the etymology but fuzzing isn't exact= ly random. That's kinda the point of it.

-rob


On Fri, May 24, = 2024 at 5:18=E2=80=AFPM Ralph Corderoy <ralph@inputplus.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,

Rob wrote:
> "Fuzzing" as it is now called (for no reason I can intuit)
Barton Miller describes coining the term.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0=E2=80=98That night, I was logged on to the Unix system in my = office via
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 a dial-up phone line over a 1200 baud modem.=C2=A0 ...
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I wanted a name that would evoke the feeling of random, unstr= uctured
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 data.=C2=A0 After trying out several ideas, I settled on the = term =E2=80=9Cfuzz=E2=80=9D.=E2=80=99

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=94 https://pag= es.cs.wisc.edu/~bart/fuzz/Foreword1.html

Line noise inspired him, as he describes.

--
Cheers, Ralph.
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